So I heard of this quest and decided to gain faction with Cabilis in order to start it with my Ogre Shaman. It took a long time to get from scowling to indifferent and realized that faction is now capped. Something I have never experienced before with a faction. I can't start the quest because it apparently requires ally faction. Am I missing something here? The quest item says it's usable by an Ogre Shaman.
There are innate penalties for race and diet. What diety are you? Have you tried with iksar illusion on? It may not be possible if ally is truly required.
I am Rallos Zek Diety. I knew factions had an effect on default faction standing but have never known of faction limitations. Seems silly to have Ogre listed as a race that can use the item if they cannot do the quest. I certainly wouldn't have wasted the time factioning.
There are a few ways Ogre Shaman can eventually get the quest done, I don't believe any of them are possible currently on Mangler so aside from racechanging from a class/race combo that can do the quest to an Ogre I guess you're SOL.
Well the difference is you don't have to worship CT to equip it, just so that your max potential faction as a non-iksar can go high enough to start the final portion. This excludes things like the Coldain Ornate Velium Pendant from Velious and Iksar Illusion pots (which I believe you can get in LoY).
Are you sure it requires ally, because the other Iksar quests like Greenmist only require Amiable. If that's the case which i think it is you can complete the quest once Velious drops and you snag a http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5695 Alternatively you could've went CT at char select.
ZAM lists the required pre-quest as requiring Ally faction. I guess I will not know until I can get my hands on one of those items if it will boost it enough. Ogre Shaman cannot choose any other deity though. Must be Rallos Zek. Just seems silly to me that they even added Ogres to the item if they were going to cap their faction. You know.. just in case an Ogre player wanted it 4 expansions later.
I 100% had this item as an ogre shaman on phinny in kunark, I dont think i wasted money on race change but maybe i did lol. wish i could remember if there was another way seems like 1000 years ago
Yeah I think you might be conning two different guild factions in Cab. I did this quest as an Ogre SHM on Agnarr with no issues. Did bone chips outside so I could walk in and then camped something else to turn in for the shaman guild. Edit: Here it is - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1663
I am definitely not conning the wrong faction. When I hand in faction quest items it says that my faction with Scaled Mystics cannot possibly get any better, along with all other Cabilis factions minus Brood of Kotiz. It will not change from indifferent any more. The quest starter will not give me the 1st quest at current faction.
Yes Suineg, that's what I was doing for faction but now my faction is capped at indifferent to all Cabilis factions.
Past tense Suineg?? The Cudgels 6-9 were added in I think Luclin, prior to that I don't know if other races could even use them, or would even bother considering how meh Cudgel 5 was. At that point access to the Velium Pendant was possible but who knows if that was even a consideration when SOE implemented the quest (I doubt it). You could maybe submit feedback on the issue tracker but I think this is one of those "not everyone could do every quest in classic" things and should maybe stay that way.
As it stands, ogres cannot get high enough faction to complete this quest chain without iksar illusion potions, which aren't available until LoY I believe. Trolls can get high enough faction on either diety (Cazic or Innoruuk) to complete it without the use of an illusion potion.