EQ PVP Big Discussion Thread

except blue players are 20times more toxic and even gms say its easier to deal with a red server vs blue

no 1 plays red99 because its locked at velious for the last 5 years and GMs ran people off but nice try, red99 had over 1k pop at the start and Rise of Zek (another eq pvp server) gets over 300 normally w/ 0 advertising , zek server on gets close to 500+ when new seasons start

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thanks for the great input

RED reboot has been bouncing around for years - now

I'd play RED TLP. IF I could find a game card. They no longer carry them in any local retail. It was a real bummer

Honestly, that is all that needs to be said.

When you say something with nothing to back it up or of no substance not many people are going to care about your input. You saying EQ pvp is terrible and that’s it is basically a message that’s going to be ignored by 90% of users here, even the trolls don’t try with you.

Very few want to play on a pvp server in EQ. Just log on to Zek and see for yourself. EQ was not tuned properly for pvp 15 years ago and sure as isn't now. As sure as the sun rises there will be no new pvp server in EQ ever.

Thing is that if it starts in Classic then the imbalances of the current game aren't as important. They could create something to prevent one shot kills just like they made motm, make it a truebox server and no GM's at all and let it ride

It is not going to happen.

Always

Fingers crossed they try a PvP server!

The odds of any new coding for either of these new servers is highly unlikely. Also PVP in EQ is Terrible. It is true and plenty of people know it. There is no need to post a dissertation on why it is terrible, the data is out there already.

I have no doubt a properly tuned EQ PvP TLP server would be very popular.

Problem is, this dev team doesn't have the resources/ability to properly tune an EQ PvP server, which is why EQ PvP is completely dead. From the start is was wildly unpopular compared to PvE, and has only gotten worse since.

Considering this dev team can't even competently fix game breaking issues in a timely manner when the fixes are blatantly obvious and simple, there is zero chance they could tune the entire game for PvP balance.

Folks can blabber all they want about how successful they think a PvP TLP can be, but reality shows us that EQ PvP is incredibly unpopular because it's so horridly balanced, and there is zero chance these devs can make it balanced.

store's potion sales would be through the roof. PvP EQ TLP would be a good idea for daybreak to max profits.

Not when it’s only like 20 players buying the potions

You do understand this further disproves your point, as Blue has also been locked at the same time period, yet consistently has between 15-25 times the players.

Red has tried multiple times to entice people to play including a 290% xp bonus in a full group.

So your best "gotcha!" points are:
1. At one point in history, at its best point and highest interest (server launch) Red had 1k players.

So, Blue on an average day? A low pop server in era on Live?

2. Rise of Zek has 300 w/ 0 advertising at the most played time, server launch! WOWEE!

Its a boxing allowed PVP server bahaha
So that is what, 40 actual players depending on how much autism is on a private EQPVP server (hint: its alot)

3. "zek server on gets close to 500+ when new seasons start"






Im beginning to think you are making up numbers....

I just can’t see pvp in the current EQ world working. This coming from someone who played nothing but pvp for the first 6 years of EQ. Successful pvp server needs a good population with some sharks at the top with good pvp skills, a big middle of decent people, and some sheep at the bottom that just follow people around. It also needs some sort of semblance of honor, name recognition, reputation, self policing. And of course the biggest thing is cheating.
Early pvp was fun. Classes weren’t balanced but all had advantages and disadvantages. You learned your class. When to fight, when to run. Open world pvp isn’t an arena. It’s survival. Later expansions when the gear and AA gap between raiders and non raiders got too huge it started to suck more.
Current EQ.. just so much unpoliced cheating, so many throw away accounts people can use. And if the culture is anything like red99 the worst people are put on a pedestal. Griefing someone off the server is being good or winning.
Also prob because now I’m old and gotta afk sometimes and that’s not a great combo for s pvp server..

Do you honestly think these points haven't been brought up before?

A year ago we had 220 signatures on a petition for a PvP TLP server and multiple threads about exactly everything you've mentioned. Not bad considering it couldn't be promoted on official forums