Questions for Devs re: Malosinise Rk. III

This spell a level 72 spell for Shamans and a level 71 spell for Magicians, but the scroll is marked NO TRADE and only Magicians can receive it from the quest turn-in.

Sources:
Spell - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=9982
Scroll - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=54032
Quest - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=3629

Would it be possible to get this added as an additional reward to the quest line for Shamans? I know it's not easy to determine what the original intent was on older quests like this, but I think the fact that the two classes get the spell at different levels indicates that the quest script contains the oversight, not the spell database.

Thanks!

(this is my first time through TSS content so if there's something I'm missing here, please fill me in)

You are looking at the reward list for the level 71 spell turn in quest. If you look at the list for the level 72 spell turn in quest you will find it. Trust me it is there as I have had that on live since the TSS expansion.

TSS only have 1 spell quest they not divided by level.

Rank II

Increase Incoming Spell Damage by 1%
Decrease Cold Resist by 78
Decrease Magic Resist by 78
Decrease Poison Resist by 78
Decrease Fire Resist by 78
Limit: Max Level(75) (lose 5% per level over cap)
Limit: Effect (Hitpoints allowed)
Limit: Spell Type (Detrimental only)
Limit: Resist (Magic allowed)
Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed

Rank III

Increase Incoming Spell Damage by 1%
Decrease Cold Resist by 80
Decrease Magic Resist by 80
Decrease Poison Resist by 80
Decrease Fire Resist by 80
Limit: Max Level(75) (lose 5% per level over cap)
Limit: Effect (Hitpoints allowed)
Limit: Spell Type (Detrimental only)
Limit: Resist (Magic allowed)
Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed

Waste of developer time for an extra -2 svall, imo.

I didn't check in game before I posted and when I did it seems I only have rk2 of that spell.

See here:

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/tss-rank-3-spells.247556/

Basically every spell has a Rank3 version in the spell data file. But most of them are not flagged for the correct class and show no class. And of course most of those spells don't have spell scrolls.

It seems like a big oversight to me that wasn't complained about enough and never got fixed. You'd need to fix probably the spell data for 5-15 spells per class to make sure their rank 3 spells are correctly flagged for the class and level. Then you'd need to create item IDs for each spell scroll. Then you'd need to modify the TSS rank 3 spell quest to award these spells in a logical lowest to highest order.

Lots of grunt work for low returns. Decent work for an intern though I bet.

Casters get 13 rank 3 TSS spells, hybrids get 8, and melee get 3.

They chose for Magicians to get rank 3 of this spell and shamans to not get it.

If they gave you it now then you'd have 14 rank 3 spells, 1 more than everyone else. It's fine the way it is.

That doesn't really make sense and if that was the goal it should also be the same for RK 2 spells. As it is I don't see any reason why a class should not get a RK 3 version of a spell that they have a RK 2 version.

There are quite a few like that in tss. It was their first time doing rk2/3's so the system improved as time went on.

AS A RAIDING SHM I DEMAND (BECAUSE IM TYPING IN ALL CAPS) THIS SPELL! WHO SAID MAGES COULD HAVE BETTER MALO TYPE SPELLS!!!! RIOT TIME!!! I DIDN'T KNOW THIS COULD BE RK3 BUT NOW THAT I DO IM SUPER MAD!!!! GIVE ME THE SPELL OR GIVE ME DEATH...........................?

I'd still like some input from a dev on this

Like raid shamans dont have enough to do all ready, make the mages useful and have them cast the Damn Malo.

Silly druids!!

SHMs are underpowered if you really huff paint! We clearly need pet buffs / a mez spell / snare spell / and a group heal and better group HOTs! Dots could use some damage i mean look at bards?

No caster/priest class got a rank 3 for every spell in TSS. It was always this way. It wasn't a bug or an oversight but an intentional design decision. The spells exist in the spell file, but they are not attached to an item and not obtainable in game.

I've asked them several times over the years to add them so I could complete my spellbook, but they have always said no. I asked them again prior to TSS launch on Phinny if they would consider adding them in for TLPs, but they again said no. When I complained they still showed as missing when using /output missingspells they removed the class and level from them so they wouldn't show as missing rather than add them in game.

They're not going to add them.

The TSS spells are pretty much like that. The increase from one rank to the next is rather small. If I get one in the normal course of play, great, if not, then I don't worry about it. Heck, I won't even ask for one if someone in the guild is offering them for free.

Casters/Priests all got 13 Rk3 spells, Hybrids all get 8, and Melee get 3. The difference between individual ranks isn't huge for the most part but for some things like corruption cures it actually makes a significant difference.

I can understand that shamans are not supposed to get rk3 of this spell. However, it shows in the file produced by the command "/outputfile missingspells", which is maybe a bug ?

Example for me, both these spells are not possible to obtain, yet they appear:

72 Malosinise Rk. III
86 Mammoth's Force

Why are you necroing a two year old thread?

web-searched a question & the engine returned this thread as one of the results & he didn't bother to check the date I would expect. (no I have never done that, okay I lied I have totally done that)

Honestly shamans should get mage pets too.