TDS Raid Event 3: Principal Vicarum Nomia - Progression!

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Mykaylla, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. Smokn Augur

    I just wanna know why none of the updates are being done to the new content
  2. Battleaxe Augur

    Event 3 is not the only event in TDS and afaik Event 3 is fixed. The deadline and wipe to occur to Event 3 (if any) after the deadline are long past.

    Still, I can understand reluctance to get involved. So we have Deillusional (reluctant), Beimeth (busy), and Mykalla.

    If none of you are interested in making
    "Thanks to those who frequently submit their guild status, keeping this page up to date."
    as appears on EGL more than just words, it'd be nice to say so. (<- not directed at you since you suggest there's not a lot of communication atm).

    It's just a little shocking to contrast the OP in this thread with the subsequent going limp on the website.
  3. shiftie Augur

    Afaik she hasn't been online in weeks in any relatively public form.
  4. Axxius Augur

    Can you update events other than AM3 then? ;)
  5. Deillusional Augur

    updated everything apart from event 3.
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  6. Wando New Member

    Don't worry, it will get updated once a special guild finally beats the expansion.
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  7. p2aa Augur

    lol Wando

    Big thanks for the updates Deillusional :)
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  8. Imrahil Augur

    Well, thanks Deillusional. Not your fault the OP behaved weird (and that's a mild expression).
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  9. Zaph Augur


    You can update my guilds progression, dont worry about any others on my server, im sure no one will mind.
  10. Crystilla Augur


    I pretty much already explained this. The main updater (and starter of this thread) lives in a part of her country which has not had internet for a long time now (I'm guessing shortly after this thread was made) and has also been pretty ill.
  11. Bigstomp Augur

    Thank you for updating.
  12. Axxius Augur

    Sorry to hear that. I hope Mykaylla won't mind Deillusional updating events then.

    And thanks Deillusional!
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  13. Kiillz Augur

    yes thanks Deillusional
  14. Maeryn Augur

    Better is impossible to determine when the 2 speed metrics winning faster and quicker are similar and each guild does better on one metric. Lavanet/EGL other than the 10th anniversary does not display any information other than time of first win and the unwashed masses do tend to evaluate things only by "Aug 4th is before Aug 13th". 6th night out of 89. 2nd night out of 98. Potato. Tomato.

    http://www.eqfreelance.net/eqdkp/viewevent.php?s=8a151bda49e2df567fe1fa4d59cdb899&e=581
    http://www.silentredemption.org/raids.cgi?mid=942&dayselect=365&x=25&y=13

    Freelance - beat it 9 times, the first time on Sep 12 (6th)
    Silent Redemption - beat it 12 times, the first time on Sep 29 (9th)

    Two guilds on the same server with public DKP sites. If EGL actually tracked that raid it would just list Freelance beating it first, there are plenty of other factors that go into better and in the case of both those organizations much of the relevant information is publicly available. If you're interested in joining one of those guilds it's important to subjectively decide which is better for you.

    In the meantime a list simply showing which guilds beat PoWar and when lets people know which guilds to search for on the internet or which guilds to contact in game if that raid is a larger priority for that person than it is for the guild they are currently in. Once upon a time Lavanet/EGL would provide that list but it now chooses to list 7.5 of 11 events for whatever reason(s).

    In terms of the questions I asked they are the 3 most pertinent ones to guessing at the RoI member's guess/brag of 3-4 months and Axxius' "just lol" rebuttal. Axxius answered two of those and I think the answer to the 3rd is around 20.

    June 23 - RoI wins
    Aug 4 - Triton wins on 6th night of attempts
    Aug 10, 17, 24, 31 - 3 nights of attempts per week
    Sep 7 - Triton gets to 20 attempts 2.5 months after RoI win

    Now does Triton spend 2 or 3 nights per week on a non-progression non-nerfed raid that only RoI has beaten once CotF progression is complete? Does Triton take fewer, around the same or more nights of attempts than RoI? How close is my guess of 20 nights for RoI?

    Based on available information 3-4 months seems pretty reasonable, especially if Triton "only" spends 2 nights per week on pre-nerf during the summer and doesn't ramp up to 3 nights until September.

    This is a discussion board. People are certainly entitled to post "just lol" but if they are willing to provide some basic information about their raids a reasonable attempt can be made at guess the validity of a 3-4 month guess/brag.

    Then being a discussion board it gives people an opportunity to provide more information about their guild. It will attract some apps and repel others to state that Triton/SoD/whoever would have spent 4+ nights a week working on pre-nerf PoWar once CotF progression was complete. If CT/TSM/whoever wants to post they have 20+ wins and still do the raid it could appeal to apps.

    It's this strange thing called communication, I realize the internet is only supposed to exist for the sake of Miley's campaign to liberate nipples but in the shadow of that it's actually possible to discuss various guilds in a video game.
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  15. Ratbo Peep Augur

    Great post.... Heh :)

    -R
  16. Robnie Augur

    Should I bother updating it for arx 3? Are they back yet?
  17. Maeryn Augur

    Yes. Tell Kelliene to post an update with dates, change the sidebar to include dates and/or post the date on this thread.

    Pain and Glory has gotten loot from multiple "TDS T2" events so no clue which event and date is the win that is the 1 in 1/4. Recent front pages other than RA and P&G pretty clear.

    Calix Quirinus

    1. Realm of Insanity - 11/26/2014
    2. Triton - 12/17/2014

    Praetor Vitio

    1. Realm of Insanity - 11/12/2014
    2. Triton - 11/23/2014
    3. Ring of Valor - 11/24/2014
    4. Shadows of Doom - 11/30/2014
    5. Fire and Fury - 12/01/2014

    6. Inverse Logic - 12/02/2014
    7. Crimson Tempest - 12/07/2014
    8. Reckless Ascension - 12/18/2014
    9. Silent Redemption - 12/21/2014
    10. Enceladus - 12/28/2014
    11. The Silent Minority - 12/30/2014

    Principal Indagatrix Lucia

    1. Realm of Insanity - 11/12/2014
    2. Inverse Logic - 11/23/2014
    3. Triton - 11/25/2014
    4. Shadows of Doom - 11/30/2014
    5. Ring of Valor - 12/08/2014

    Principal Vicarum Nomia

    1. Realm of Insanity - 11/12/2014
    2. Inverse Logic - 11/13/2014
    ​3. Triton - 11/16/2014
    4. Shadows of Doom - 11/17/2014
    5. Ring of Valor - 11/30/2014
    6. Crimson Tempest - 12/02/2014

    7. Descendents - 12/04/2014
    8. Machin Shin - 12/07/2014
    9. Township Rebellion - 12/08/2014
    10. Silent Redemption - 12/09/2014
    11. Raging Fury - 12/21/2014
    12. D'Pikeys - 12/21/2014

    Principal Quastori Numicia

    1. Realm of Insanity - 11/12/2014
    2. Inverse Logic - 11/13/2014
    3. Triton - 11/14/2014
    4. Shadows of Doom - 11/16/2014
    5. *Ring of Valor - 11/23/2014

    6. Machin Shin - 11/24/2014
    7. Silent Redemption - 12/02/2014
    8. Reckless Ascension - 12/09/2014
    9. D'Pikeys - 12/14/2014
    9. Raging Fury - 12/14/2014

    9. Firestormers - 12/14/2014
    12. Sol Invictus - 12/16/2014
    13. Fu World Order - 12/29/2014
    14. Freelance - 01/02/2015

    Captain Tita's Ghost

    1. Realm of Insanity - 10/29/2014
    2. Machin Shin - 11/10/2014
    2. Pain and Glory - 11/10/2014
    ​4. Reckless Ascension - 11/18/2014

    5. Phoenix Rises - 12/07/2014
    6. Final Empire - 12/08/2014
    7. Triton - 12/09/2014
    8. Ring of Valor - 12/10/2014

    Defense of the City

    1. Realm of Insanity - 10/29/2014
    1. Inverse Logic - 10/29/2014
    3. Shadows of Doom - 10/30/2014
    3. Triton - 10/30/2014
    5. Machin Shin - 11/02/2014

    5. Ring of Valor - 11/02/2014
    5. Sol Invictus - 11/02/2014
    8. Fu World Order - 11/03/2014
    9. Township Rebellion - 11/04/2014
    9. Fire and Fury - 11/04/2014

    9. Descendents - 11/04/2014
    12. Reckless Ascension - 11/06/2014
    12. Crimson Tempest - 11/06/2014
    12. The Silent Minority - 11/06/2014
    15. Freelance - 11/08/2014

    16. Enceladus - 11/09/2014
    16. Silent Redemption - 11/09/2014
    18. *Raging Fury - 11/10/2014
    18. *D`Pikeys - 11/10/2014
    18. Firestormers - 11/10/2014

    18. Pain and Glory - 11/10/2014
    18. Final Empire - 11/10/2014
    23. Phoenix Rises - 11/13/2014
    24. Five Rings - 11/16/2014
    25. Red Band Brigade - 11/20/2014

    26. Hellfire Club - 11/23/2014
    27. Silent Resurgence - 11/24/2014
    28. Ancient Dominion - 12/01/2014
    29. Infinit / E'ci Public - 12/02/2014
    30. Undivided Faith - 12/07/2014

    30. Iratus Lepus - 12/07/2014
    32. Pandemonium - 12/09/2014
    33. Frayed Knot / Grey Hawke - 12/11/2014
    34. Resolution of Erollisi Marr - 12/15/2014
  18. Robnie Augur

    I actually pot the updates to EGL. We beat it last night at 18:42:30 or something along those lines, I forgot the exact time would have to pull logs. I guess that puts us at #13?
  19. Maeryn Augur

    Most likely 13th, but once you get into double digits go for a hook. Maybe something like:

    3rd event down, we are the 6th guild game wide to have beaten at least 5 TDS raid events and now pushing to be the 4th to beat 6 or more! Grats RA!

    Still looking for some <class need A> and <class need B>.
  20. Coruth Augur

    Wow new year, same old thread.

    You know what I find the most funny about this thread is the Conspiracy Talk angle. Last night I watched Dallas/Detroit Football Game. There was a flagged picked up that contributed to the Lion's losing the game. There's ton's of "oh it was a conspiracy, America's Team" talk. Yet, no need to look for Conspiracy, when Incompetence explains it. There are incompetent/bad calls in NFL all the time. It happens.

    Same is true of thread. Its funny how many people (Hi Battle) still cling to the idea that Beimeith's connection to EGL & how Beimeith's guild is doing are some direction relation to why things are the way they are. How many times have I heard on this forum "Oh EGL asked for Logs because Beimeith" wants some strat tips. ((Setting aside for the moment that Developers post Beta Walk-Throughs + heck ROI just posted a Twitch Feed. This isn't a Strat based game its an execution based one)

    But the funniest part of the whole thing, is how many of those posters use Gameparse. They run software on thier machines, that Beimeith has a hand in development.

    Either Beimeith's an evil genius out to glean Leet Strats from Pilfered Logs while conning people into running a piece of software on their machine to Inflate Necro Parses 10% and Deflate Wizard Parses 10% to get Necros Nerfed some more and send him Virus Data with your PW and your parse.

    OR He's not.

    Bad decisions happen (such as the Flag call, or original ask for logs).

    Since then this thread has been full of people attempting to push their own agendas and conspiracy talk. Or thier own ranking system.

    There will never be a universal perfect ranking system because any recorder lacks key data like # of attempts. So people will attempt to make the best system they can from the info they can.
    And choosing to report whatever someone claims, is a system. And people will be skeptical of that one too.

    Right now, best I can come up with is ROI 1, Triton 2, race for 3+ still on.