Riposte is out of control

Discussion in 'Tanks' started by Maedhros, Feb 27, 2023.

  1. Maedhros High King

    I don't think that that math checks out.
    I think with a weapon out the ripostes are actually creating additional strikes of damage that wouldnt happen with a snowcone on, in fact I am sure thats happening.
    The question will be what will happen as we skip over the mobs ability to riposte and move down the protocol to dodge and shield block stuff.
    We know that dodge wont do anything on raids and I don't even think shield will matter.
    So the mobs will still hit me, but without the benefit of additional riposte strikes in the mix.
    The mobs max hit and average hit should still be the same, it will come down to the total number of strikes I receive which may be harder to qualify with so many other variables at play. Am I tanking more or fewer mobs? Do other tanks die and I tank their assignments? How long are the mobs alive and I am actively tanking? etc.
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  2. tsiawdroi TittyGOAT


    Recruit more sks! Or clone sith =p
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  3. Lluianae Elder

    That resolves my query from before, I hadn't seen the message preceding due to my chat box filtering, but it's apparent from the logs now. Were it not for that message just before, it'd be a whole mess to me.
  4. Szilent Augur

    It is fully as effective as all the other defensive skill checks. Enemies Strikethrough Dodges and Parries with the entire facility with which they Strikethrough Riposte.

    Doing so will "eliminate" the riposte strikethroughs by changing them instead to Dodge Strikethroughs. Which, to be clear, doesn't change the incoming damage. It just means you don't hit the enemy back when you're damaged.
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  5. Syylke_EMarr Augur

    You're correct. I should finish my coffee before trying to think through EQ mechanics :p
  6. Wulfhere Augur

    I think this is right.

    The initial miss is what is reducing server load. Since NPC accuracy is very high, and hits are more frequent, the simplified riposte chain that benefits NPCs also reduces server load.
  7. Fintank Augur

    Based off logs and timestamps it moreover looks like mobs (not just raid mobs) are double riposting at times. OR mobs are able to riposte our ripostes which I believe the "fix" to the riposte loop was supposed to remove entirely. Unless we've officially upgraded from quadding to sextupling as a normal occurrence.

    Edit: Apparently there is double messaging for Strikethrough. For some reason there is a line preceding each Riposte Strikethrough that ends in "but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)" before the line with damage and riposte strikethrough occurs.
  8. Wulfhere Augur

    Correction. I'm doing some testing today and I find that I can still parry without a weapon.

    Wielding Darkened Cone of the Mystics (snow cone), I get these log results against a trivial mob:

    [Tue Feb 28 11:53:23 2023] A jungle crawler tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Feb 28 11:53:23 2023] A jungle crawler tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Feb 28 11:53:23 2023] A jungle crawler tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!

    Here you can see that my parry or dodge is not logged prior to a strikethrough (and DS damage is reported before the hit).

    [Tue Feb 28 11:50:19 2023] A jungle crawler tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Feb 28 11:50:19 2023] A jungle crawler tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Feb 28 11:50:19 2023] A jungle crawler tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Feb 28 11:50:19 2023] A jungle crawler is pierced by YOUR thorns for 465 points of non-melee damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 11:50:19 2023] A jungle crawler bites YOU for 272 points of damage. (Strikethrough)

    PS: One cannot bash riposte without a primary weapon to enable riposting. So a shield doesn't provide any offense in these tests (/attack off).
  9. Wulfhere Augur

    Wielding a 1hb weapon (2 dmg Fool's Gold Stein), I see exchanges like this with /attack off:

    First we see 2 lines that I believe report a single strikethrough hit by the mob. It's not clear if the mob riposted or not. I think that's why its confusing.

    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] A toxic orbweaver tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] A toxic orbweaver bites YOU for 251 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)

    Does the strikethrough belong to the mob and the riposte belong to me? I believe this is the case and it's misleading (accumulation of tags).

    Or did my own riposte swing (not shown) strike though and get overruled by a riposte and strikethrough from the mob? I believe not but it would be consistent tag ownership if so.



    In the same round, we see my ripostes of its second swing without any strikethrough. The first line accumulates a riposte tag to the resulting swings (by either party as above):

    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] A toxic orbweaver tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] You bash a toxic orbweaver for 7689 points of damage. (Riposte)
    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] You crush a toxic orbweaver for 363 points of damage. (Riposte)

    Thoughts?
  10. josh Augur

    I'm going to reiterate this, we are not taking any riposte damage, as we have 100% strikethrough and ripostes that are struck through no longer counter attack.
  11. josh Augur

    Here's a way you can show what I've said in a controlled environment, attack a combat dummy face to face, it will not hit you, take off all of your gear even weapons until you have 0 strikethrough in the stats window. swing at it, it will very infrequently riposte and hit you.

    this is the message you get when a mob hits you and it was a riposte

    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] Combat Dummy Beza hits YOU for 5382 points of damage. (Riposte)
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  12. Derka Power Ranger

    So with this:
    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] A toxic orbweaver tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Tue Feb 28 12:09:40 2023] A toxic orbweaver bites YOU for 251 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)

    The mob did a strikethrough on you, you riposted the attack but since it was a strikethrough attack it negated your riposte thus hitting you in the next line. A (riposte strikethrough) means that the mob struck through your riposte.

    The next set of lines you posted from the same round are just the riposte damage you did from the initial Strikethrough hit that the mob did to you. All those lines of combat are from one mob hit lol.
  13. Wulfhere Augur

    Yes, good test.

    But what is the line that precedes that riposte? What does the "you try" line look like?
  14. Wulfhere Augur

    I said that and concur so I think you're agreeing with me on the interpretation.

    No there is no strikethrough on that sequence. This is my riposte of the mobs 2nd swing of a double attack.
  15. Derka Power Ranger

    I see the second attack now. I had assumed it was all part of the same attack from timestamp
  16. Allayna Augur

    Here's the engage, so un-slowed.

    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star is stunned by a blinding light.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] You bash The Star for 16237 points of damage. (Riposte Critical)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] You slash The Star for 5774 points of damage. (Riposte)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] You bash The Star for 13685 points of damage. (Riposte Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] You try to slash The Star, but miss! (Riposte)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to bash YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] You avoid the stunning blow.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] The Star tries to bash YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:09 2023] You bash The Star for 15581 points of damage.


    Here's the first slow, a proc, from my belt:


    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] Your spell was partially successful.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star has been crippled.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] Your spell was partially successful.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star has been crippled.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] Your spell was partially successful.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star has been crippled.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You begin casting Ageless Enmity VII.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You capture The Star's attention!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star is bathed in intense hatred.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You try to bash The Star, but miss! (Riposte)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:11 2023] You try to slash The Star, but miss! (Riposte)


    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but misses!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:13 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)

    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:15 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:15 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:15 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:16 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:16 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:16 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:16 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:16 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:16 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow! (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:17 2023] The Star tries to bash YOU, but misses!

    Fast forward to to getting slowed

    Here's the real slow landing:
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:27 2023] Your Crippling Snare spell on The Star has been overwritten.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:27 2023] The Star yawns.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:27 2023] The Star is diminished.

    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:30 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:30 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:30 2023] The Star hits YOU for 77269 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:30 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:30 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:30 2023] The Star hits YOU for 77269 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)


    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:32 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:32 2023] You bash The Star for 16204 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:32 2023] You slash The Star for 81352 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:32 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:32 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:32 2023] The Star hits YOU for 11976 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)

    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] Your Crippling Snare spell did not take hold on The Star. (Blocked by Turgur's Insects.)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] The Star hits YOU for 77269 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:32:33 2023] The Star hits YOU for 77269 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)



    Scrolling a bit to get some adds:

    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] The Star was chilled to the bone for 11000 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] The Star hits YOU for 26664 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)

    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid tries to slash YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] Your spell was partially successful.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] a vibrating ambuloid has been crippled.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid slashes YOU for 23318 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid tries to slash YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid slashes YOU for 60173 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:57 2023] A vibrating ambuloid tries to slash YOU, but misses!

    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:59 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but misses!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:59 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:59 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:59 2023] The Star was chilled to the bone for 11000 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:36:59 2023] The Star hits YOU for 41403 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)

    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] The Star was chilled to the bone for 11000 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] The Star hits YOU for 49419 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] You slash The Star for 72941 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough Critical)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:11 2023] You try to slash The Star, but miss! (Riposte)

    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] You slash a vibrating hydra for 3643 points of damage. (Riposte)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra bites YOU for 88534 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra bites YOU for 88534 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:12 2023] A vibrating hydra bites YOU for 88534 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)


    Here's 1 second of combat round from at least 2 adds and The Star:

    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid tries to rend YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] Your spell was partially successful.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] a vibrating sessilloid has been crippled.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid rends YOU for 65911 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid tries to rend YOU, but misses!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] You slash a vibrating hydra for 13948 points of damage. (Riposte Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] You slash a vibrating hydra for 39299 points of damage. (Riposte Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra bites YOU for 71624 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra tries to bite YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating hydra bites YOU for 79681 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but misses!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] Your Crippling Snare spell did not take hold on The Star. (Blocked by Turgur's Insects.)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star was chilled to the bone for 11000 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star hits YOU for 48591 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid tries to rend YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid rends YOU for 88803 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid tries to bash YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] A vibrating sessilloid bashes YOU for 32583 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but misses!
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte! (Strikethrough)
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star is burned by YOUR flames for 6742 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star was chilled to the bone for 11000 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sat Feb 04 12:38:14 2023] The Star hits YOU for 78048 points of damage. (Riposte Strikethrough)

    I can provide more logs, but someone please explain it to me like I'm 5.

    How are you feeling that you need to pull out a snowcone to avoid death?

    I would love a more easily understandable log description of what is happening *success vs failure* with ripostes.
  17. josh Augur

    It kind of looks like there is nothing.
    i would expect a version of this except riposte but it's not there

    [Tue Feb 28 15:47:49 2023] You try to punch Combat Dummy Beza, but Combat Dummy Beza parries!
    [Tue Feb 28 15:47:27 2023] You try to punch Combat Dummy Beza, but Combat Dummy Beza dodges!

    some of them i don't even see it saying i missed at all on the same second as the riposte

    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:38 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 834 points of damage. (Critical)
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:38 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 99 points of damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 342 points of damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 342 points of damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 99 points of damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] Combat Dummy Beza is pierced by YOUR thorns for 110 points of non-melee damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] Combat Dummy Beza hits YOU for 5382 points of damage. (Riposte)
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:39 2023] You kick Combat Dummy Beza for 919 points of damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2023] You try to punch Combat Dummy Beza, but miss!
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 1339 points of damage. (Critical)
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 282 points of damage.
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 342 points of damage. (Flurry)
    [Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2023] You punch Combat Dummy Beza for 342 points of damage. (Flurry)
    Seems weird to me for sure. That message is there when YOU avoid a mobs attacks with riposte though. you try but mob ripostes is nowhere in my logs.
  18. Wulfhere Augur

    That is weird.
    Do you have chat filters disabled for any category of melee combat?
  19. Wulfhere Augur

    You have riposted 1 swing with a bash (AA) and a slash.

    You are hit by a strikethrough that is absorbed by a rune.

    You are hit by a strikethrough that is absorbed by a rune.


    You have riposted 1 swing with a bash (AA) and a slash (that missed).


    You are bashed by a strikethrough that is absorbed by a rune.


    You successfully bash the mob (button press?).
  20. Allayna Augur

    So "strikethrough" and "riposte strikethrough" messages are 1 attempt, somewhat redundant messaging?

    Where strikethrough is the failed riposte and riposte strikethrough is the damage you have received from that same failed riposte?

    And no, bash isn't pressed, but on /autoskill for me.