Cleric Tips for new server?

TheTone · May 20, 2020

Tuco said: ↑

“I take it from the lack of responses this clicky is trash
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It's pretty situational - long cast time and the % decreased movement is pretty low. You won't be very effective using it to kite or anything, but it can definitely save your butt and let you run away.

Hinastorm86 · May 20, 2020

Glow said: ↑

“Primal essence is super good on the enchanter. 40 agility 40 stamina 40 charisma 40 int is a massive set it and forget it buff. That's the stats from like 4-8 pieces of gear in that era.

Mostly the snare necklace is kinda lame tbh. It's super resistable, super long cast, super short duration. Sure there are some situations its a nice safety blanket, but you can also just root”

Isn't it 20 stats?

Machen · May 20, 2020

Hinastorm86 said: ↑

“Isn't it 20 stats?”

Yes, and he's also got the wrong stats.

3: Increase STA by 20
5: Increase AGI by 20
6: Increase STR by 20
7: Increase DEX by 20

error · May 20, 2020

Glow said: ↑

“Anyway 20 stamina and 20 agi is strong on both enchanter and pet. 20 str and 20 dex aint bad on a pet either. I'd 100% take this over snare clicky.”

I believe charmed pets are treated the same as summoned pets in that stamina buffs do not increase their health pool, only buffs that directly increase hp work.

Xhartor · May 20, 2020

Stratka said: ↑

“Raiding

The overall goal is not to have the raid wait on cleric mana

CH chains are standard, not much to say other than don't mess it up

There is a lot more but these are off the top of my head”

Those 2 point s seems to be in conflict with each other. In Classic use healing light on raid tanks, complete heal cost too much mana and tanks don't have enough HP. CH don't really come into play until Trak and VP in Kunark, and aren't really the standard until Velious.

Sikkun · May 20, 2020

Ask your cleric leader what the macros they use for rotation are and have then setup before your first raid. If you don’t they will slightly hate you, maybe deep down, but it will still be there.

Sikkun · May 20, 2020

Xhartor said: ↑

“Those 2 point s seems to be in conflict with each other. In Classic use healing light on raid tanks, complete heal cost too much mana and tanks don't have enough HP. CH don't really come into play until Trak and VP in Kunark, and aren't really the standard until Velious.”

I usually ran a rotation on bee’s, eye, naggy, and vox at least. Was it needed? Probably not, but it’s safer and easier. Mana isn’t really a probably when a 8-9 man rotation, usually have a huge number of clerics in classic.

Terranos · May 20, 2020

Don't forget to get a 2nd monitor for Netflix/Youtube

Candycorn · May 20, 2020

Your not going to be wearing all plate only ding dongs wear full ethereal mist set from hate.

The only pieces worth wearing are the chest , legs and helm and I will usually swap out the helm for platinum tiara and swap the hate BP out for withered leather tunic ( which you can put robe ornaments in =D ) wisdom to soft cap 200, then balance wisdom and plus mana items.

GEBs for feet, withered arms or platinum armband and gloves for hands.

Tayvial · May 21, 2020

This is awesome!! a lot of information for sure. I definitely needed this. thank you all again for all the information!
I was thinking going High elf. I may race change later, who knows.
Definitely will put some points into STR and get some bags. Dark Elf is probably one of the most favorite race. thankfully in classic the Dark Elf mask still works and is a great clicky " junk buff ".

but then again having "Hide" is awesome to.. so yah what race to choice?!

Terranos said: ↑

“Don't forget to get a 2nd monitor for Netflix/Youtube”

Done. lol

Artroz said: ↑

“Some game play tips:

1) If you typically play tank or melee classes, think backwards about targeting. I played a cleric for 18 years, but am currently raiding on a tank. The toughest thing for me is that as a cleric you fundamentally think about targeting differently. Especially in group content, you target the mob(s) as quickly as possible so that you can /assist the mob to heal (in contrast, tanks tend to cycle NPCs and look at their targets to know what to taunt). In classic this is more important than it is in current live content. Tanks have zero AA, crap weapons, and occasionally questionable skills early on. Also, some DPS like to drop their biggest nuke on INC. NONE of that is bad...once. I hope some of them are trying a new class for the first time! The result is agro tends to ping pong hard around the group early on. If you play "whack a mole" (heal the player with the lowest HP bar) you can find yourself a bit behind the curve...getting group members targeted as they are dying. The mobs current target is a leading indicator of who currently needs a heal. Health bars can lie to you. They tell you who "took" damage. When things get in the weeds and your not sure who to heal next...assist the mob!

2) Buff your tanks! This is serious business in classic. Your buffs are a significant percentage of a tanks HP/AC. You'll have a symbol line, an HP line, and an AC line of spells. All three of these need to be on the main tank 100% of the time. If your a good cleric you heal well and buff them as they ask. If your an outstanding cleric you will set up a window that has nothing going to it except "event messages" and "spell wearing off" messages. I use a window with black background and make my "Your XXXXX has faded on XXXX" come up in bright yellow letters. Buff your ordinary tanks as they ask. However, if you want to befriend a great tank, making sure they never ask for cleric buffs is a good way to go. This habit will also set you up to be a valuable raid cleric and you'll get all the good work! Little things like this tell tanks and guilds that you are making an effort and you take your role seriously. For me...its just fun to anticipate needs.

Note: You'll get behind on buffs in fast paced groups. You'll be behind on mana. Communicate with your puller/MT. Sometimes they will just want to chain pull and you buff when you can. Often they will pause for a named and allow time for rebuffs. Point 2 above is a best practice. As with all things, there are exceptions. If you are grinding XP and not challenged by content, so be it. Still, challenge yourself to sneak in those buffs.

3) Potions are your friends. Befriend potion vendors and keep your bags stocked on concentration potions and mana boosters. I haven't played a TLP since Phinny, so I forget what all the potions are called. They get cheap very quickly and a cleric that travels with their own mana pots can really improve the pace of the group. As I recall, their is at least one potion that stacks with breeze/clarity, but you'll figure that out quickly enough.

4) Try to befriend a tank or two early. Tank + healer is a great start for a group. Plus, you'll have someone you can talk your craft with. I've raided all content up to TBL on my cleric and all content on my Paladin. I've learned more about healing technique and mechanics talking to better clerics. I've learned more about tactics talking to tanks! There is a built in symmetry between tanks and those that heal them. If you can't do those two things at least good enough...no amount of DPS or CC will carry a raid, and rarely can it carry a group. Find you a pocket tank (or tanks) and make sure you nourish and feed them properly! They make great pets...and if your really good at your job you can let them maintain the illusion that they are in control!

5) Neither a jerk nor a chump be. You have the power of life and death in classic. Ask yourself: "Is healing this person at this time in the groups best interest?" Amazingly enough, the answer is sometimes no. What is better, 1 dead or 6 dead? You often find yourself in the role of judge, jury, and executioner. Some healers are jerks and use this power to get their way in an argument. Don't be that healer. Other healers try to "out heal" stupid. Can't be that person either. Crap happens, generally go down with the ship if that is what it comes to and work out the "whys" to get it right the next time. However, if someone is making consistently poor decisions and is uncoachable, send them to the school of hard knocks.

6) In classic, generally speaking, don't heal what you can't see. Feign pulling and mob splitting happens a lot in classic. For that reason, healing an unseen puller can bring a train through your living room. If in doubt, ask if it is "safe to heal?" in /g or /t. (I mention this assuming ET window does not work in TLP? If it does, your temptation to heal pullers is greatly reduced by a ET window lit up like a Christmas Tree.)

I love what I'm doing on FV currently, so I'm probably not going to try to build a toon on one of the new TLPs, but I love playing a cleric in classic. I'm envious of those of you that are thinking about giving it a shot. Anyone who thinks playing a cleric is boring, your not doing it right!

Enjoy the game! Anyone trying a cleric for the first time, feel free to send me tells in game. I like to coach and mentor!

-Formerly Artroz CT/Phinigel (Currently Freppy (CLR)/Zannin (PAL) on FV)”

Will definitely hit you up for more information, thank you.

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