MotM Buffed?

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Fizon, Apr 18, 2019.

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  1. Fizon Elder

    Spells are hitting far less then they did a few days ago. Ice comet hitting for 291 on CT? what gives?
  2. Snah New Member

    Before the patch

    [Tue Apr 16 22:54:47 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 238 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:54:48 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 277 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:54:58 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:01 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:27 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:27 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:33 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:35 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:45 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:46 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:55:47 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:56:37 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:57:07 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 485 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.

    After the patch

    [Thu Apr 18 20:02:42 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:02:42 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:02:46 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 129 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:02:55 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:14 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:26 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:28 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:28 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:40 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:41 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:42 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:52 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:56 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:57 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:59 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:02 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:03 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 155 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:09 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:09 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:09 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:15 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:26 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:42 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:43 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:07 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 117 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:08 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:23 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:25 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:31 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:32 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:47 2019] Dresden hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:50 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:54 2019] Steel hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:55 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 85 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:57 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:06:01 2019] Vaxx hit Lord Nagafen for 80 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:06:04 2019] Nenbik hit Lord Nagafen for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:19:52 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:19:59 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:04 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:05 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:12 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 53 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:14 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:19 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:20 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:27 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 15 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:31 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:54 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:20:56 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:02 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:03 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:09 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:10 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 164 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:15 2019] Vaxx hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:16 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:17 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:26 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:33 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:39 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:41 2019] Steel hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:46 2019] Dresden hit Cazic-Thule for 291 points of cold damage by Ice Comet.
  3. Snah New Member

    Not just a wizard problem.

    Before Patch

    [Sun Apr 14 18:02:56 2019] Necrosis hit Protector of Sky for 240 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Sun Apr 14 19:17:11 2019] Necrosis hit The Spiroc Guardian for 240 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Tue Apr 16 20:13:00 2019] Meeko hit Lady Vox for 240 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Tue Apr 16 20:29:42 2019] Meeko hit Master Yael for 240 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Tue Apr 16 21:54:14 2019] Morad hit Innoruuk for 240 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Tue Apr 16 22:50:29 2019] Necrosis hit a dracoliche for 240 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    After Patch
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:11 2019] Morad hit Lord Nagafen for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:24 2019] Morad hit Lord Nagafen for 87 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:29 2019] Meeko hit Lord Nagafen for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:29 2019] Morad hit Lord Nagafen for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:33 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 47 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:03:52 2019] Meeko hit Lord Nagafen for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:09 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 45 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:23 2019] Meeko hit Lord Nagafen for 21 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:38 2019] Morad hit Lord Nagafen for 74 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:38 2019] Meeko hit Lord Nagafen for 6 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:41 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 54 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:43 2019] Morad hit Lord Nagafen for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:43 2019] Meeko hit Lord Nagafen for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:04:47 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 31 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:05 2019] Meeko hit Lord Nagafen for 80 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:05 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 77 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:23 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 11 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:47 2019] Necrosis hit Lord Nagafen for 57 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:05:49 2019] Morad hit Lord Nagafen for 61 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:07 2019] Meeko hit Cazic-Thule for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:31 2019] Necrosis hit Cazic-Thule for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:52 2019] Necrosis hit Cazic-Thule for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:21:57 2019] Necrosis hit Cazic-Thule for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
    [Thu Apr 18 20:22:02 2019] Necrosis hit Cazic-Thule for 144 points of magic damage by Drain Soul.
  4. Lowlife Lorekeeper

    I would love to see any information about this. Definitely a nerf to all casters including beastlords! Don't forget us bsts a lot of our luclin dps is casting :)
  5. Bobbybick Only Banned Twice

    Servers are coming down tomorrow for Maintenance and Devs were made aware of this (and other) issue(s) yesterday. Whether or not those two things are related we'll find out tomorrow afternoon/morning I guess.
  6. Beimeith Lord of the Game

    They aren't fixing it.
  7. Fizon Elder

    This is a massive Nerf then you got a link to a reply from a Dev?
  8. Harmonix New Member

    I have been raiding on Selo for a few weeks now as a Wizard, and since the 17 April patch my spells have been doing quite a bit less damage. On mitigated mobs my rains have been reduced from 717 to 574 damage, and my banestrike has been reduced from 240 to 192 damage. This same roughly 20% damage reduction effects every spell that I cast on mitigated raid mobs. Is this an intentional nerf, or is this a bug that will be worked out relatively soon? With how fast Selo unlocks it would be nice to know if I should change my trajectory going forward.
  9. Fizon Elder

    It's all caster DD's I haven't been able to find a Dev answer on this if it's a bug or feature. It's even worse on mangler.

    Server go down in an hour right? Maybe they will fix it then
  10. ThenaEQ Augur

    bump, please fix this
  11. WaitingforMoreEQ WaitingforTBC

    MoTM is double dipping vs spells currently. So instead of 20% reduction on Luclin mobs you're getting 20% reduction then another 20% reduction. On classic mobs you're getting 40% reduction then another 40% reduction.
  12. Spooky Augur

    @Absor hello...?
  13. ShivanAngel Augur

    I thought my spells were hitting for less last night, this makes sense now...

    Seems to be some wierd double dipping code happeneing.
  14. Cannan Journeyman

    LVL 60 WIZ rain hits for 896 no matter which resist,

    on MOTM Luclin mobs, they previously hit for the mid 700 range
    NOW, they hit for 500ish.

    What you guys forgot to test is the Kunark, and Classic MOTM mobs,


    we did Gorenaire last night to test, 300 dmg from lvl 60 rain.

    Nagafen.... 150........900 dmg rain now does 150 dmg to MOTM mobs in classic....

    why play Wizard?
  15. DryalRmog Augur

    So, If this is your first time on a TLP back raiding in Classic -Luclin on mobs with MOTM welcome back!

    There are 5 or 6 version of MOTM (I dont remember what they are called, MOTM1,2,3,4 ect?)

    Classic has one, Kunark has one, Velious has one, Ect.

    Each on farther back nerfs you HARDER than the next.

    So Vox and Naggy , and Sky are going to be the worst versions. Your melee Skills will hit for like 4dmg, and spells that hit for 900 will hit for 100s like you are showing above.

    Kunark so Dragons, VP, VS, ect is next, so those 32K hp dragons are still 32k, but you hit like a limp biscut, and they AOE for 1000, OUCH!

    Velious is next, not as bad but still enough to beaf up their DMG output, while knocking down our DPS.

    In Luclin it becomes less and less of notice, in POP its almost speed bump, till you get to zeks in time.

    I think its GOD or Omen when it comes off completely.

    Enjoy MOTM!
  16. ShivanAngel Augur


    There is so much wrong information in the post its unreal...

    Kunark dragons are not still 32k, their hp was buffed significantly.... Run a parser, they have upwards of 100k hp now.

    MotM in classic was a huge damage decrease, but it appears to be double dipping now.... Spells did not hit motm mobs for 100 every time unless there was a resist.

    The only thing correct about your post is that there is multiple versions of MotM
  17. Harmonix New Member

    This is a bug where MotM is stacking twice. Hopefully this is being remedied as I type this. This bug hurts everyone, so I assume it will be fixed sooner rather than later.
  18. YourNameHere Lorekeeper

    MoTM is all new to me but ...

    This affect on Ice Comet (example) is only when you do raid targets affected by MoTM and not on regular mobs?
  19. WaitingforMoreEQ WaitingforTBC

    I love how you basically call someone and n00b then post a bunch of n00b nonsense that shows you have 0 clue what is actually going on.
  20. Cannan Journeyman

    This issue only affects mobs with the MOTM buff. Basically any raid target Classic+
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