Has Anybody Here Seen The Shadiest Swashbuckler?

Discussion in 'News and Announcements' started by Roshen, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. Burdi Augur

    Thanks guys, it is a very good idea.
  2. Nickster86 Elder

    @ Roshen I understand the need to get plat out of the game. The idea was well meant yet ill received. The majority of people are not going to go purchase the items. The response of " well if you don't like it then do not buy" isn't a very good customer service reply. If you want to get plat out of the game try making bigger bags for sale as well as merc slots. I average about 100k so I am not rich but I am def not hurting either. I would gladly drop plat for a merc or a large bag. I have to think the majority of people do not buy the bags with SC as they are priced so crazy high. Also this can't be stressed enough UPDATE THE CASINO. This has been asked for a million times over yet instead of doing that you guys made the swashbuckler. If the casino had things like large bags that you could win with a ticket I can promise you the amount of plat you'd rake in would be insane.I know you guys are in a tough position and you can't please everyone all the time so I do not relish your position. But I think it's safe to say the swashbuckler is a flop and that the casino is the way to go. I wish you all the best as you try to sort this out.
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  3. Slasher Augur


    Seriously if you dont like it dont buy it is your attitude toward your paying customers ? wow.
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  4. Ancient Alien New Member

    i just bought an item , polyphenominal axe , and i looked after i bought it , she was still selling one . . . i know what i am talking about , she sells one item a day , as many of that item as you can afford
  5. Hayzeus Augur

    This has already been refuted though by Roshen himself.

    The vendor apparently holds an amount of inventory that adds up to a total value. Now, that doesn't mean it can't be quantity TWO of a single item

    Let's pretend the total value of her daily inventory is 300 Nobles

    1x Item A = 200 Nobles
    1x Item B = 10 Nobles
    2x Item C @ 5 nobles each = 10 Nobles
    1x Item D = 80 Nobles

    OR, on a different day it may be

    1x Item A = 300 Nobles

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  6. Wyre Wintermute I'm just a butterly dreaming I'm a man

    I watched her have an item, another player bought it, and her inventory was empty.

    How many ch was the axe? The katana was 90n. It could be that she'll sell up to X nobles in value per day.
  7. Roshen Brand Manager


    While I could have been more articulate here, I'm glad you pulled my full quote.

    If people don't buy certain items from Marcia, we'll have data on that soon. With that data, we can discuss the possibility of changes based on real player feedback and data. This isn't an attitude towards 'paying customers.' This is trying to get real information on what players like about this feature, and what players don't.

    While I encourage people to continue to share their thoughts here on the forums, how players choose to engage with this NPC in-game is something our team will be looking at.
  8. Roshen Brand Manager

    We'll be randomizing her respawn time a bit more in an upcoming update. This should give less of an advantage to players in certain time zones.
  9. Sheex Goodnight, Springton. There will be no encores.

    I was excited for this until the prices came out.

    Case in point:
    Cape of the Firestorm at 160 nobles equates to 17.6 million plat. If one were to buy/sell krono for 800k each, they'd need 22 of them to obtain this item. 22 x $16.99 (assuming I buy min 25) = $373.78.

    *really*?

    So my choices if I want this item are to shell out a ton of cash or go out and farm the 11 million plat I'm short. Guess I'm poor by Marcia Attilohmygawd standards?

    Maybe I'm playing a different game but I'd be surprised if more than 1-3% of the playerbase had more than 10 million plat to their names. There are plat/cash grabs and then there is this.

    I'm hoping at least that no one buys the absurdly priced stuff and you lower it to reasonable levels. EoLS is a lot more useful item than an illusion player race one, yet it's 7 million plat cheaper. Please fill us in on how the pricing was determined.
  10. Torriadore Elder


    This was meant to pull platinum out of the economy and give some collectors with said money a means to grab a few legacy items. With some of the attitudes shown so far you'd think most people posting here were expecting a sack full of the biggest legacy items for cheap.

    It'll never be cheap, but based on Roshen's words they may take another pass at what is offered and how it is offered based upon data from live servers.
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  11. Maeryn Augur

    Pre-patch: being in a likely large segment of the player base with a daytime M-F job that doesn't allow playing EQ at work I had to set an alarm and spend 5 minutes to check a vendor and was on largely even footing with anyone who wasn't working at midnight US Pacific time on a regular basis who doesn't have much trouble getting back to sleep after getting a snack, going to the bathroom or in this case paying attention to a video game for a few minutes.

    Post-patch: Marcia belongs pretty much exclusively to players who will park a toon chain hailing with an audio trigger for the different text that indicates that Marcia has spawned and can spend a large portion of the 168 hours in a week in position to wake up if necessary and react to that audio trigger.

    Yes, the fixed time with a 24h interval sucks for people on their way to or at work at 8-10am in Europe 5 of the 7 days a week. Fixed interval anything except 24h would address that issue. Randomizing creates an entirely different issue that can't be addressed in 5 minutes by you waking up or your minor child (only person who under the EULA who can use your account) checking the vendor at a specific time while you are at work.
  12. Torriadore Elder


    But if all of the firestorm capes on live servers end up bought out within minutes of going up for the next few months, will the price really have missed the mark?
  13. Torriadore Elder


    I'd prefer after next patch if they made Marcia's departure silent and the other NPCs did not change their speech based upon her departure. It would at least require you to check your screen.
  14. Sheex Goodnight, Springton. There will be no encores.

    Time will tell. I'd be astonished if more than couple dozen people were willing to or had the resources to buy that item immediately. It's not like it's an invaluable utility item like a root click for a mage, it's just an illusion for kicks.
  15. Kravitz Augur


    I can see your point, but you have to realize, if its an item you never had, you NOW at least have a chance of getting it by working toward it if you care for it. You hardly had a chance before.

    SOE making money of it is a good thing for the game. I just prefer the chance being normalized across the whole player base board with unlimited stock of the item or make it NO TRADE, so everyone has a more fair opportunity, and SOE can make money of people buying Krono for it and taking plat out of the game at the same time, both of which are good things for the life of the game.

    If you think 15-20 million is a lot at level 70-100 (probalby 90% of the player base), read my posts in this thread as well as a few other threads on how to farm plat quickly. With no control of plat coming out of the game, this is at least a good step forward, but I just don't like the idea that it caters to people reselling high demand items for millions more, that is the biggest issue I have with this.
  16. Sheex Goodnight, Springton. There will be no encores.

    Yes, I like having the ability to get it. But I don't think the majority of the playerbase is sitting on stockpiles of 100m+ plat to go wild here. Maybe am totally wrong, but since plat hasn't really served a ton of use up until krono, there wasn't a ton of reason to stockpile it unless someone wanted to eBay it for $ or pour it in a swimming pool and swim in it a la Scrooge McDuck or Eric Cartman in front of Kyle.

    Agree, I like the no trade idea.

    I'd be curious to see stats I what people have currently, not that SOE would share this kind of info.

    My only point is that some items are priced pretty wacky, so hopefully (if I'm not the only one thinking this) they won't move much and SOE takes another look. This reminds me a lot of the "bags in the marketplace are priced too high" discussion. They remain that way because people are paying it and or have nothing else meaningful to spend their SC on. Perhaps these items are the same, but I hope not, especially on a few of them.
  17. ZenMaster formless, shapeless

    Hi Roshen,

    Would it be difficult to recode Marcia's inventory to NO TRADE?

    I am thinking you simply pull up the item's template/code, relabel the item number (to distinguish from original items), turn NOTRADE=FALSE to NOTRADE=TRUE, and upload to Marcia's cache. Repeat for the 10 or so items that are droppable.

    This is the same strategy that was used for Aspect of the Brood's non-existent Heirloom flag. It kept interest in LoN by forcing players to seek out multiple copies of Aspect of the Brood. Here, players cannot move around a droppable Manastone between alts and boxes.

    This would blunt concerns over the market and prestige. A NO TRADE Manastone or NO TRADE Earring of Living Slime could be reduced to 1 million or 2 million platinum for utility purposes. Firestorm Cape can be the top prize and kept at a high price.
  18. Dre. Altoholic

    If the goal is to take plat out of the economy, why make the merchant a challenge to locate?
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  19. Buds Augur

    BTW, farming plat isn't playing buy low, sell high in the bazaar. That doesn't add plat to the economy, it just moves it from one guy to the next. Farming, means getting plat from mobs, looted gems/items/rewards etc.

    The problem isn't the price, it's the fact you have to camp the mob. Come on already, its just about impossible, to even see an old world named, never mind this chick. Price it high and put at least a few of the item on her. How many people have 30 million plat that they can blow without being broke? Problem solved if they do.
  20. Fanra https://everquest.fanra.info

    Roshen,

    Can you announce to us when she is leaving the game? And when she leaves if it is for good or if this is planned as an annual event?

    Or is she planned to remain permanently?

    If you don't want to say to keep it a surprise, or no final decision has been made yet, can you at least tell us that?

    Thank you.