Your abusing trolls again Devs!!!!!!!!!!!

I have literally heard all negative things. I normally don't rant like that but if they ruin trolling for me i might be all set with DCUO

I knew how to troll pre WM pre AM. Just let me troll like that. Thats all i want

This is the first big leap the team has tackled with combat structure in a post Mark Halash (Tunso) DCUO.
There is a learning curve. Test it the way it needs to be tested, then provide feedback.

yeah we have no idea how to do that yet other than try everything and see what works, Tunso testing went out the window a year ago and they still haven't told us what the new standard is.

I no longer give benefit of the doubt with new stuff in this game. So many things have been put on test, played horribly and received almost unanimously negative feedback. We are always promised that our feedback is being read and considered only to have the exact same thing that was on test hit live. Know what happens then? People leave the game in droves. Couple years later they completely revamp the combat system again to remove the negative changes while making the game "better" and the cycle starts all over.

STOP ASKING TO GO BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE. YOU CANT GO HOME AGAIN AND YOURE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH ROSE TINTED GLASSES.

STOP MAKING POSTS ABOUT A SYSTEM YOU HAVENT TESTED THAT IS IN ITS PRE-ALPHA STAGE AS IF ITS GOING LIVE NEXT WEEK.

And please stop posting in caps because it's silly and makes people ignore you giant wall of text.

If you're not testing, you're just speculating, and that's not constructive at all.

So say we get rid of power back, how do you propose we do solos and duos without a troll then?, people need to stop suggesting extreme measures without thinking, all powers need power back, it's not just restricted to DPS or else it's not possible to beat anything without a troll.

yup. its hard enough finding one controller to throw pot every 15 seconds so the solution is to get two trolls to do it in half the time.

From test, I'm trying to work out whether the powerback power is there for when you run power-hungry solo or duo with no troll, or whether it's "working as intended" as a must-have slot for general use, given the cooldown on Troller powers?

I've seen people complain that all new loadouts will be basically BIGHIT1, BIGHIT2, Weapon Buff, Powerback, SC Charger, SC. My question is, is that a result of people being used to DPS Universe, and not considering the presence of trollers? If so, shouldn't there be a shield in there as well, since no healers either?

I have to admit that on test I was running a heal or a shield and the powerback in the sub-30 alerts because they were wall-to-wall DPS in PUGS. Even a group that I was invited to (and so I hoped was going to be balanced) was all DPS on arriving in the instance (although we had all three support roles there). I often run a hybrid Celestial build on live, since there are so few balanced groups in PUGs, and I have to rely on my own resources to keep myself alive. So I think I probably went into test with that mindset, so I can see how ingrained it has become in myself.

To be honest, though, I rarely had enough cash to keep respeccing from one role to the other, and my testing was hampered by that. Of course I wanted to top the scoreboard with an electric DPS for the first time in my life in the game , so I went ahead as DPS until I did that, but not being able to switch SP cheaply from Critical Attack % to Critical Heal % was painful. Perhaps in future we could ask for respeccing to be free on test, or the best possible solution, a free armory vendor?

Edit: Should have, and have now, posted this in feedback too.

Funny. People did it for years before am & wm were introduced..

The same way you did it before all of this, use your weapons, drink a soda, be smart. Using your weapon is your power back

No thanks. Im entitled to my opinion. Ill keep my glasses on. Thats when this game was flourishing. Explain to me how listening to peoples feedback who are testing is speculation?

Isn't the powerback a bit extreme, too? I thought at first it was because obviously I had low power at lower levels, so a big chunk of power back was likely only a couple of hundred. But then I saw from testing thread op that it's %age based. So it's always going to be a 2-3 tick full regen?

How trolls work now. Every troll needs POT, instant power. Most of us carry at least 2 debuffs defense and attack some of us carry three (attack, defense, and heal). Then there is either s single self shield or you put in your supercharge for a group shield and power. that takes up all 6 powers with powers you need. Now to have CC effects you need some of those powers to also CC. Also right now your Instant power gives a group buff very helpful in group content.

So how exactly are controllers being made less of a battery and more controller when we are being restricted on how much power we can put out and half of the CC powers that we would use to control are being removed? It will take 2 just to keep the grouped powered. maybe three. I don't have a choice in debuffs anymore. i can't use phatom flames for a debuff/stun because the stun has been removed. I now have to use thought bubble which is the least desirable of the 2.

And then lets get to the communication part. Who here gets into groups where everyone is in chat? Half the people out there don't come to chat and the other half don't read the chat box. How the hell are 2 trolls supposed to know when they are doing anything. This change only favors 8 people who only play together. the rest of us that have to pug will never get this to work.

What do you do with terror tendrils now. it no longer give pot or stuns which were the only 2 things that power did. it is now a dead power with no use.

kinda sad really how a lot of people missed that era. power management, prec/might balance, soda timing. we're even lucky enough to have lair bonuses (sidekick,backup,supply) when back then you're lucky enough to have a pet on your loadout.

if you remove it completely, there is no power back from weapons either.

Ok i take it you don't understand me either, fine I don't care.

Oh you mean the era where you needed 3 trolls for 1 Light dps?, sure lets go back to the battery troll days then, because it's not like trolls ever hated that.

Really man? Like really? You either are playing clueless or didn't understand

If you had 2 good trolls, wasn't a problem. Never was for me.