Work In Progress What's Next For DCUO: New Plans For Future Episodes.

Discussion in 'Concluded' started by Spytle, Apr 9, 2015.

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  1. X-zero Loyal Player

    The next release rate seems pretty good. Seems a good way to keep people subbed up. I am not fond of the MoV limit considering it one mark that everything will use. It will be really hard to work toward a rare vendor piece and finishing an older tier piece at the same time.

    My main problem is not getting a mark for older content even slightly older content. If I understand this correctly we get credit for the 12 most relevant content pretty much two dlcs/episodes worth of content. So say I am a 113 player only WoTL2 and AF2 will give me MoV. But what about HoP raids which is still T6 content. They have arguably the worst drop rates in this game. And usually you got an extra marks instead of gear. So after this next system goes into place will gear guarantee to drop or if no gear drops will atleast 1 MoV drop from a boss even if isn't relevant content. It sounds like there is a chance we could run those raids and get no marks or gear.

    If already answer sorry but yeah 49 pages not going to happen.
  2. Nightcrawler Legionnaire

    My biggest issue with this is the removal of choice and preference to how we play this game. No content should ever be made "irrelevant" and the idea that this is a good thing disturbs me in so many ways that I can't even comprehend how a company would even consider it.

    I've been leveling some alts lately and the changes they made to the 1-29 missions that force you to play only one mission after the other is maddening and ridiculous. In that past, I loved going around and doing the outdoor missions for various leveled missions until I was all done and then went into the instances. I stayed in the same city and enjoyed playing the game and sometimes skipped crap I didn't enjoy. Now, in order to play the part I like, I'm forced to play crap I could care less about...ruining my enjoyment of the game.

    This new scheme is more of that crap where you determine how I spend my time progressing and what I do while I'm in the game. How the developers can not see this as a negative for it's customers is beyond me.

    Make all content "relevant" and worthwhile and stop trying to hold our hands and explain to us how we are supposed to play and enjoy the game.
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  3. Radium Devoted Player

    We're talking about the rare style vendor here, but theres the concept of minimum effort yields the minimum reward.

    The vendor is supplying the styles for those with nothing spend marks on, I'm just showing how easily it will be to have Marks to spend.
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  4. Flavian Committed Player

    You don't get it - less than 3/4ths of the player base has the money to go legendary.

    They THINK they can milk the Premium base for more money.

    What's going to happen is the Legendary Base won't keep up with releases, the Premiums will be scared off, and the game will be inundated with a dead player pool.

    NOBODY is going to play older alerts and raids anymore. The low level game will IMMEDIATELY DIE - nobody will want to do it. This is the WORST marketing plan they could've devised.
  5. eanur Well-Known Player

    I think you are forgetting the new loot system that will hopefully be in place by the time this new content system is released. With the new loot system you are always guaranteed at least a marks and some loot unless you are doing old content which you are overgeared for.

    Also this aint towards you but I think some people need to remember that this next dlc is that start of t7 so all t6 will be irrelevant when you have got max cr of t6 content but that also you don't need max t6 cr to start t7 so some t6 content like the last dlc we just had will still be relevant.
  6. MolleaFauss Active Player

    Didn't have the time to read through all the pages (stopped at about half), so sorry for the double posting if the case, are Weekly Boxes on previous tiers still dropping?
    If they don't, do you realize that some style feats can only be obtained through those on certain roles?
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  7. Isa Othala New Player

    I feel really bad for the people who will only be able to do Arkham Asylum for relevant drops or inner sanctum. This update is going to completely ruin the fun. Also, let's really thin about the higher tier players. I'm a 111 Earth Tank and it is impossible to get into any of the AF2 content. No one wants an Earth tank when they can just spam LFG channel until the get a Rage or Ice tank SO in this new system, I'm completely ****** because I won't be able to get into the content that's relevant because of my power, weapon, and/or loadout.

    This is a huge problem that is only going to be worse if you don't have a league with a lot of 110+ players.

    Like I said in my last post, there is not one piece of good news in this update.
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  8. Black Dawn Steadfast Player

    I apologize if this has been answered before, but will stat clamping be an option on older content so that higher CR players can receive marks and prestige? Also, with the new set up, will players still receive prestige for content below their CR range?
  9. Nightcrawler Legionnaire

    I know. Leveling was such a fun and enjoyable part of the game until they ruined it by removing our choices.

    Now, it looks like they are doing more of the same with the end game content. If I want to spend my time slowly progressing in a lower tier because I *gasp* enjoy the content more than whatever I'm "supposed" to play at my tier level, then let me. It's my money and my time. Stop playing big brother and telling me what content to play. Maybe I don't enjoy what you have to offer me at tier?
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  10. LeagueOfV Dedicated Player


    Yes, that is true for T3 if you do group missions. I thought your original post I quoted was talking about T4 taking being difficult without group missions if you had to do solo only. I was thinking about T3 only through solo. You get 60 gear from the solos and if you have to save up for CC gear or vendor gear CR 70 is hard to get to.
  11. MajorThor New Player

    With my CR only being at 59, the "Relevancy Brackets" totally screws me as I still rely on both Tier 1 and 2 content to acquire the marks I need in order to progress at a rate I feel appropriate. I'm only on a Premium level with the game so this new way is forcing me to pay for DLC "Episodes" or "Replay Badges" in order to play all of the Tier 3 content is kinda lame. The reason I'm not Legendary already is because of how buggy the game is on the PS3 platform, from falling through the ground at random intervals to slow loading of NPC/terrain it just doesn't scream "I'm worthy!" to me.
  12. DustyAnkh Loyal Player


    Yea, my fault. You must know better than the team the makes the game and all of their marketing and financial teams. :rolleyes:
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  13. darth_paul Dedicated Player

    My previous questions having been answered and any others that I had, but didn't express myself have also been answered by others. That said, the lowered cost for gear within the set amounts of time seems like a good thing as far as I can tell for me leveling up my current roster of seven characters, but I'm in agreement with everyone that does not like the fact that we will no longer be getting any marks for running lowered tiered content, as it doesn't help higher tiered players to assist lower tiered players like myself. I do have leagues of good helpful people for all of my characters, but don't always run stuff with them as I guess that while I am grateful to be in those leagues and enjoy running stuff with them, I'm usually more apt to just go along at my own pace solo. Most of the people in the leagues that I have are long time players and they are all at the high CR ratings, so the majority of the times that they run stuff with me at my level to help me get the marks, it is indeed a steamroll with them doing all of the work and me just being along for the ride. Pretty much the same as it is would be making a random group, except at least I'm with people I know that I can count on to actually help right? Anyhow, I'm not saying that when this goes into effect that those league mates won't be willing to help me progress at my lower tiers anymore, as I do still trust them to help players like me out, but who can say really? Everyone is their own person, and if there are no more mark rewards, are the other style rewards, etc. really worth it? As others have pointed out, it all depends on the individual as to whether or not they need anything from lower content to still get, or if they are just kind enough to want to help out. Same goes for me with doing stuff on my own like lower tier solos, duos and alerts. I'm in the same boat with others that have said that they do the lower stuff to be able to earn marks to get better stats to do the stuff within their tier, this eliminates that and concerns me. As does the idea of hitting a brick wall so as not being able to progress not just because the content might be too challenging at the lowest CR when entering a tier, but also from not being able to find anyone to run stuff with beside those within my leagues as is the problem that I am already having now being a new player before this even goes into effect. Perhaps cross play with PS will solve that as I am on PC. Overall costs to keep up with new content will also be a factor to my continued playing, as I have been an adamant premium player and would like to continue to be, but will have to wait and see how this going to work for my spending. I don't mind spending a little bit more for things, and already have all the DLC content with all of the powers, legends, etc, so that's not a concern. It's just how much more going forward per month that I will need to decide if it's o.k. for me or not, or if I will have to subscribe or quit. I really don't want to have to do either, but I guess subscribing is better than quitting if the game still has something to offer, but the newer content better be spectacular and I think that there should be some other incentives for still playing older content.
  14. Mepps Sr. Community Manager

    Monthly boxes remain, without the Marks inside.
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  15. KingGuy420 Active Player

    Here's a question I don't think anyones asked yet...

    Does this mean the end of open world content within episodes? They were a great way to get some easy marks and possibly some decent gear and something I enjoy doing.

    I notice there's no mention of this... like at all.

    If it is there, will it come in month 1 of the 3 month cycle or will it come slowly over all 3?
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  16. Derio 15000 Post Club

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    Pardon me if I am reading this incorrectly. For the first month we will get a raid and a duo. I assume a vendor that will have 101 gear, putting everyone CR at 116. The following month we have a alert and Elite Alert and a solo. Which I assume drops slightly better 101 gear and elite dropping 102 gear. Then we have a raid and elite raid along with another duo which I assume drops 102 and 103 gear.
    Sure it will be covered in the livestream today, is everything in green HOP pt2 and everything in Blue WoLpt3 and green AF3 and blue HoP pt3 and so on?

    So If I am reading this correctly by the 3rd month when the raid and elite raid and duo come out, max CR should be at 117 thus making T6B outside the players parameter, limiting them to 6 pieces of content until the next month until they reach the first 12 pieces of content and then having 12 pieces at all times going forward? Or will CR be calculated in a different way to where until we reach 12 pieces of content no player will reach 117 CR until 12 pieces of new playable content has been reached( 12 pieces of T7 content)?

    If so and the way gear drops we will only be getting certain pieces of gear from this content. Since we already know what drops and what doesnt drop before the content comes out, should we expect low drop rates even from the elite versions of these alerts during that month and if so, doesnt that demoralize the player to run the content when they can just wait till next month?
  17. DustyAnkh Loyal Player


    Mepps said earlier that open world content will be here and there, as seen fit. ;)
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  18. Mepps Sr. Community Manager

    The gear drops across the full 3-month cycle are the same item level. Getting more slots full increases your combat rating as you obtain more items.
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  19. DustyAnkh Loyal Player

    I like the idea of spreading out the gear. It reminds me of when the game first came out and there were only a few pieces of the styles in each raid. We had to wait until the next raid was released to get more pieces. I liked that a lot.
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  20. Sore Steadfast Player

    I assume blue earns you one set of gear. Green earns you another set. Neither is a DLC. There aren't DLCs anymore. There are Episodes. Each verticle pair is an Episode. Each Episode is an opportunity to tell a story. Consecutive Episodes may or may not relate to each other. The HOP story may conclude in one or more Episodes but not necessarily at any predictable sequence.
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