What is the truth for the future of DCUO?

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Pyrozombi3, May 31, 2024.

  1. Pyrozombi3 New Player

    There are two conflicting statements-

    In the Producer Letter March 2024 they state "We're making significant investments in the game’s future, the people who are working on this beloved project, and in DCUO’s overall growth. To put it simply, this is a great time to be a DCUO player. "
    https://www.dcuniverseonline.com/news/dcuo-producer-letter-march-2024

    Then the CEO of EG7 states the opposite. Basically, "existing games will be maintained with investments where necessary. There will be no more major investment in DCUO.. such as no more planned remaster."



    So which is it? Does this game have a future or not?
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  2. Great Architect Loyal Player

    I would assume it means that Daybreak / Dimensional Ink will be funding the significant investment themselves - not relying on EG7 to finance it? Or that it's of a scale that EG7 does not consider "major", but Daybreak do?
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  3. Furious Vee Well-Known Player

    As of right now, I'm leaning more towards EG7's statement. The future of this game isn't looking so good right now. It's like they've dug themselves into a chasm, and only a miracle can pull them back out. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but so far, I'm not seeing any progress.
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  4. FlyingFingers Well-Known Player

    EG7 needs to do better you can't not do anything and expect a return. You can't keep with the same flow or don't invest back and wonder why folks leave or don't spend on dcuo It just screams incompetent they don't know what they are doing.
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  5. WhiteLanternNC Active Player

    As long as DC is still making money they'll keep it going at the bare minimum but the second it stops becoming profitable it's over.
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  6. zNot Loyal Player

    The developer team is definetly growing i constantly see spots for dcuo team open and gone multiple times ever since and shortly before the producer letter was posted.
  7. Raven Nocturnal Devoted Player

    The development team can grow all it wants, bigger than any development team in existence even... Still wouldn't matter with Big Pappa Corporate calling the shots where the time/resources/money goes.

    This includes (but is not limited to), cutting massive corners and siphoning money elsewhere.
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  8. Aiden_Warren Committed Player

    Make 1000 source marks in marketplace for 30$, it could make money. Players can get all the styles in all vendors and materials and get feats and skill points.

    Outsell the cash sellers sites. The chat bots spam. What? 100m 10$??
    Put cash in marketplace to outsell them and stop them from ever spamming and selling cash for real money that doesn't go into dcuo.
    Devs can maybe sell cash in dcuo marketplace so money can go into dcuo. Put a stop to cash sellers that's ruining it for dcuo not making money.
    Umm, Marketplace 100m 800MC, 250m 1500mc, 500m 2750MC

    Bring back unlocked old time capsules for cheaper in marketplace
    First ten unlocked for 400MC.
    Ways devs can make money for dcuo.

    As in, get us to invest into dcuo kinda way.
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  9. Reinheld Devil's Advocate

    So in a game where people are constantly complaining about cash grabs and the lack of new content, powers, movements, etc....your 3 solutions would be to add more things that are just cash grabs and add none of those things people supposedly want?

    Bro...flooding the game with more fake money is NOT going to make gold sellers go away. It will just make them cheaper and more desperate, which will likely increase the spamming. The minute there is a 100m for 800MC bundle, the sellers prices will go to $7 per 100m. Were you not here during the money glitch when prices were something like 1B for $1 and the spamming was 10x worse?

    Besides, DCUO is already the biggest money maker DI has and it's been put into 'maintenance mode'. More money to DCUO likely won't mean more investment IN DCUO, just more money in EG7's coffers. They thank you for your support though.

    In an already 'cash grabby' game, more cash grabs is not the answer.
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  10. Aiden_Warren Committed Player

    Players been selling dcuo cash and trying to outsell others and still haven't gone cheaper and desperate. It's been years lol.
    Devs aren't just gonna give us what we ask for, for free, right? And they need money to get things done in the game. Maybe money is right and in crisis and it's not easy for them to make these things happen that we been asking for.
    It takes money to fix pvp
    I don't know if it's cash grab or game is not making enough money for devs to make things happen. The things we ask for.
    You are right about the cash grab thing. I'm honestly not sure if devs needs enough money to get things done or any other reasons they haven't and it doesn't require much money at all?
    Instead of booster bundles, sell source marks for cheaper.
    Other reason is players constantly arguing with each other posts and not letting players give feedback peacefully and letting others post their opinions. Which is ignored.
    And why things haven't been done.
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  11. Raven Nocturnal Devoted Player

    I'm not dismissing your post, but the devs don't get the money to "work on" things. Devs are on a regular salary. Corporate gets the money, and decides what to do with it. No matter how much money you throw at the game, the devs will only be allowed to work on whatever they are told/allowed to.
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  12. Aiden_Warren Committed Player

    Isn't why that other game is cancelled? Not enough money.

    Depends on the work load. I wouldn't do the hard work for things unless I get salary for it's worth.
    The more money goes into dcuo. The more the salary there is for the work it can take to do.
    Like you do community service for 4 hours a day for 40$ then they have you do 6 hours a day and still pay you 40$.
    Is it the lack of money that they can't fix pvp. Or they will likely do the work for 3 times the salary?
  13. Quantum Edge Steadfast Player

    threads like this are why someone needs to communicate on these forums. I make no commentary either way, but without an official voice, speculation runs rampant.
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  14. WilderMidnight Steadfast Player

    it's disappointing. the game that has yet to live up to its potential is getting cut off at the pass.

    personally if the game were to go down I fear the axe would come at the hands of the impending "gunnverse" making room for newer games but I try not to dwell on that.

    what stings is while we've had a definite lack of direction the past year or so I have liked what little new I've seen. I wasn't very big on some of our mid term devs and art directions and lately things have just been a plus style wise, visuals. Even the very very rehashed Superman event was done in such a way it was fun. would be nice to see the newer team be able to function without a leash.

    I want a Doom Patrol dlc.
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  15. Raven Nocturnal Devoted Player

    The more money that gets put into DCUO, the more the higher-ups can fund their other games' DLC. A salary is usually a fixed rate, and I don't personally believe each devs gets some sort of commission for each piece of content released depending on outcome, nor their potential raises somehow fluctuate. However, that is something we could never know unless they tell us.

    Basically, let's say they get paid $30 an hour working for DI (specifically for DCUO). They create content, and depending on whatever the outcome of said content, they all of a sudden either earn $35 an hour or $25 an hour? Getting a consistent raise or a pay cut determined by the content they create for the game? Unlikely.

    I still believe they are cutting corners (not just people), so that furthers my point about not thinking their salary constantly changes.

    As for the other game, Google says it was cancelled because:
    "after a re-evaluation of the development risk profile, size of investment, and the long-term product portfolio strategy for the group".
    This does not mean "not enough money", but too much of a risk in losing said money after the initial investment.
  16. Aiden_Warren Committed Player

    Even tho the other daybreak games has their own developer team. So does other developer teams help fund developers of dcuo?
  17. Raven Nocturnal Devoted Player

    According to EG7, no. DCUO is their biggest cash cow, so that wouldn't make sense. They admitted to taking portions of DCUO profits and using it on other games. I'm not really the one to ask these questions to, however.

    I just know it's highly unlikely that their pay changes based on what they create.

    Edit: Just asked Meta about yours and my (this) response, and got:

    "It seems like you're discussing the financial dynamics between Daybreak Games (now EG7) and their development teams, specifically regarding DC Universe Online (DCUO). You're correct that DCUO is a significant revenue source for EG7, and it's unlikely that other developer teams would fund DCUO's development.

    Your insight about EG7 using DCUO profits to fund other games is also spot on! It's common for game developers to allocate resources and profits across various projects. Your humility in acknowledging you're not the best person to ask is appreciated, but your understanding of the situation is clear and accurate!"
  18. Aiden_Warren Committed Player

    Definitely significant post Spytle and SJ Era. But during that Era. It was said it costs money to make things happen in the game. So my very dementia (limited social skills, and thinking abilities so impaired that it interferes with daily functioning.) and Slight Autism (Trouble using and understanding nonverbal communication, like eye contact, gestures and facial expressions. Delayed or absent language development. Trouble forming and understanding) Not exactly those but more so short way of it. I am slow and late developed. Special Educated in my child to teen life.
    I don't just assume things tho. I just don't stay up to date. And still going by the past of this game xD
  19. Raven Nocturnal Devoted Player

    Might have been more in reference to the resource/investment to the particular project, or a time/money type thing. It could even possibly be referring to if they mess up or it gets a bad release, they "lose out" on money, per se. But I'm no expert in any of this.
  20. Green Lantern Fadi Loyal Player

    This is what I think.:

    I believe the game has a shut down (termination) window but it’s not soon.
    Thus the reason why the game has been buggy. not taking care of etc. they prolly just assigned small team to keep a live till then. Basically get as much income from it as possible .

    Now why I would say that?

    Well if was a company and I wanted to make a game better and invest in it more , don’t I need a bigger better team who can knock out bugs , making sure community is heard etc .

    Not having good team
    Game still buggy for months now
    Recycling events , releasing “already “ made content . Or some that was found chilling in the closet
    Not answering community issues but stating ( we are new and still working on it )

    Some people here we know might playing two roles . Who knows ? It could be literally two people pretending to be a whole team . Or this team has a true main focus which is not DCUO but they do try to fix somthing when they have time or before they clock out.

    Idk this is what I believe and am always right 90% of the time .
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