What are fat'ning foods

Discussion in 'Joker’s Funhouse (Off Topic)' started by Lightful, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. Lightful New Player

    I have to get this off my chest. Btw I'm aware "fat'ning" isn't a word but that's the term people refer to when talking about foods that will make you fat.

    This is the biggest misconception I've ever heard of. There is no such thing as a food that will make you fat and it's upsetting that people who aren't aware of this still choose to voice their ignorance.

    A calorie is a calorie. Your body can't tell the difference between 2000 calories worth of Oreos or Tomatoes. As long as you don't eat above your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) then you will either maintain or lose body fat. It's as simple as that.

    Also, we're metabolically active creatures; to state that sugar can cause fat gain is not only false but we as humans are constantly burning and storing body fat anyway. Remember, your body stores calories as fat. If you're not in a caloric surplus at the end of the day, you can't gain fat regardless of what kind or how many macronutrients you're eating. (Macronutrients are your carbs, fats, proteins)

    You can gain fat weight eating salad and lose fat weight eating Twix. At the end of the day, it's calories in vs calories out. A certain food can NOT make you fat if you're under your TDEE. Don't fall victim to unnecessary diets or workout programs. Fat loss happens in the kitchen; it doesn't come from a box or a special drink.

    Any questions? Ask away :D
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  2. DCFanatical Dedicated Player

    Foods are typically labeled as Fat causing if they have no real nutritional value beyond calorie count. Yes, 2000 calories of Tomatoes is the same as 2000 calories of Oreos. But exactly how many Tomatoes is that? How many Oreos? not to mention what other nutrients are you getting eating all those Tomatoes? and the Oreos?
  3. Apostate Rising Dedicated Player

    fattening foods are high in fat or things that lead to fat like carbs. No a calorie is not a calorie.
  4. Lightful New Player

    Macronutrients equate to the caloric value of the food.

    And what is nutritional value? It really all depends on your goal. If you're aiming for fat loss which is relevant to the topic, then nutritional value is irrelevant. The only focus should be calories. Only total protein intake will dictate body composition if we're referring to lean body mass.

    Now I believe you're referring to micronutrients in which in that case, yes, tomatoes are far more healthier in that regard. However, I'm addressing the macronutrient affect on the body. Micronutrients is a whole different topic.
  5. Lightful New Player


    You have no idea what you're talking about and you're the reason why others also become ignorant to nutrition. People like you love to regurgitate old myths that have already been debunked.

    Edit: I would also love to hear an educated explanation as to how a calorie isn't a calorie (the statement alone is a contradiction in itself) and why/how carbs promote fat gain.
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  6. Apostate Rising Dedicated Player

    if one belives they can eat mcdonalds everyday and not gain weigh than feel free. pretty sure a gentle man did this for a month straight and made a movie out of it. if you know so much why do you have to post here just to find people to "block" and tell them they are wrong? lame.
  7. Mont New Player

    anything a woman eats that suddenly make her pants make her butt look big
  8. Lightful New Player

    I've seen this movie. You're not aware that he didn't track his calories whatsoever and ate McDonalds at every meal time.

    Okay, are you aware of TDEE or BMR? Your body burns a set amount of calories everyday regardless of your activity. Keep in mind your body stores calories as fat. If your body is burning 2000 calories every day on a regular basis and you're eating 1800 calories worth of McDonald's every day, are you suggesting that you will gain fat weight?

    I didn't literally block you, I was going to ignore you. Your initial comment gave me the impression that you were stubborn so I didn't see a point of trying to educate you.

    The idea of healthy fat loss and a nutrionist will preach this to you is a small caloric deficit in periodisation. 3500 calories is equivalent to a pound of fat. If you're aware of your own TDEE and decrease your calories by 500 for a week, you would've lost a pound of fat. Any nutrionist or person with a basic background on college level nutrition will tell you this.
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  9. MetaMax75 Devoted Player

    Lard is high in fat. So, no more lard sandwiches if you are watching your waistline.


    You may want to skip eating straight lard as well.

    Butter is also pretty fatty.
    So I would avoid deep fried butter.
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  10. Mont New Player

    i worked at McDs for 6.5 years, 2 meals aday, even a freebe on days off,............. yeah i grew to a 350 porker. took alot of salads n stairs to get back to 200 after i quit working thier, sad part is i felt better but body said diabeties power activate. dang gooy yummy fast food
  11. Lightful New Player

    I hate you...

  12. Quantum Edge Steadfast Player

    Strangest debate ever on these forums.
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  13. SuperSoldier Devoted Player

    I'm pretty sure when people say "fatty" foods they mean unhealthy, because that's what we associate with being unhealthy not including a NFL lineman or sumo wrestler.

    You know what goes great with fries?

    A side order of fries...

    And for dessert fries dipped in ice cream and/or milkshake.
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  14. Fools Fire Loyal Player

    I think there's a confusion in terminology.

    Calories are all the same. It's an energy measurement. But, your body can tell the difference between 2000 calories of Oreos and Tomatoes. If the calories are in a substance which is difficult to metabolize, like *ahem* processed white sugar it'll be around a lot longer than anything that is in the tomato.

    Oh, and here's an even bigger misconception. You can't target weight loss. Doing 1000 sit-ups a day does not mean you'll be losing the fat from your stomach. You're just toning the muscle area.
  15. Lightful New Player

    I'm referring to body composition.

    As far as calories and body composition goes, no there's no difference. Yes, there's no such thing as spot fat removal. Glad you're aware of that.
  16. Lightful New Player

    Well this is where off topic discussions go, correct?
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  17. Lucaefor New Player

    2000 calories of fat is *not* the same as 2000 calories of fiber. Eating 2000 calories of lard would make you very unhealthy. Eating 2000 calories of cabbage would not. Your body can tell the difference between drinking a pint of gasoline and a pint of milk.

    Carbohydrates are broken down into glucose in the stomach. Insulin is secreted by the pancreas and it carries the glucose molecule through the blood into the body cells. If a lipid (fat) is present in the stomach it will attach itself to the glucose molecule and be stored along with it. Fat chains get longer the more fat is stored. So yes your body can gain fat even if it has a zero surplus of energy.
  18. Lightful New Player

    Read my previous responses.

    Macronutrients equate to the total caloric value of the food. So saying 2000 calories of blah doesn't matter. Like I said, a calorie is a calorie.

    Like my original post stated, we're constantly storing and burning fat so stating that so and so will make your body gain fat is relative. It's how much we're burning and consuming in periodisation. You're probably getting your information online which isn't the most reliable of places. If it was truly accurate, it would tell you that it's calories your body stores as fat. Yes, your body can store fat as fat but fat also has a caloric value and that's precisely why fitness experts and nutritionists alike go off of total caloric intake in a set amount of time.

    Some nutrition labels will tell you the caloric value of a macronutrient. You can also find it online. The fact that you said you can gain fat in a zero surplus reveals the inaccuracy of the Internet because I'm sure you didn't get that off of a college level nutrition textbook. The one I own says otherwise. (Understanding Nutrition 11th edition, Ellie Whitney and Sharon Rolfes). Talk to a nutrionist, they will also tell you otherwise.

    Edit: Also, you stated that 2000 calories of Lard is unhealthy. I'm NOT referring to micronutrients or their affect on the body. That is a totally different topic that I'm not addressing in this post. Please read my comments before posting. If you disagree with what I'm saying, that's fine. To each their own but I would like to hear what your credibility and/or resources come from and compare that to mine. Look up Lyle Mcdonald, his information correlates with what I'm saying and he's one of the most respected and renown fitness experts in the industry. He also has a PHD in exercise science and nutrition which is the degree I'm currently pursuing.
  19. GeoShock New Player

    Calories, body composition, doesn't matter. If you sit on your behind all day and do nothing every food will be fat'ning. I eat all kinds of junk food everyday plus I love to drink beer and play computer games (so not a very healthy life style) however almost everyday I spent 1,5-2 hours in gym or go for an hour bike ride and thats enough to keep me fit and not get fat.
  20. Lightful New Player