Weekly periplo (formerly problems getting in content? Come in)

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Cyfaill, Oct 23, 2022.

  1. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    What pretends to be this thread? It's an idea to try to make people gets in all content and achieve a couple of feats if possible. Firstly i'll focus on raids and if it is a success i'll continue with the rest. So if you are not interested you don't need to read the rest of the text and you are free to go.

    Probably i'm not the first to suggest it and i'm sure i won't be the last one but the main idea is to every week try to do a raid. Why a raid? Because it's harder to reunite other 7 people than 3 or 1 and also it's hard to comunicate what feat do you want to try to do.

    Why am i doing this through the forum instead of the game? The main reason is because when i go into the game i want to play not to write, also this is the perfect way to schedule it with time, to do research if it's needed (i mean, to check how it's done, check what briefs/feats are you missing on a character, to know what you have to do for the feat, etc), to be ready at some day, some hour and some 'place' [the raid], to speak to all 'universes' [platforms], to double the chances someone reads you (not everyone reads the chat in game but maybe they do here).

    Yes, you are right, a really tiny part of the players read this forum, that's were all of you can help by telling other players to check this thread on the forum (specially those who are active on social media [twitter, youtube, etc] could help a lot).

    Which raids? When? The idea is to do all the raids until the last, well not all, the last episodes (the one's that are out of omnibus) won't be covered because they don't have any problems to get in (I said out of omnibus and not the specific name of episodes because as time goes by there will be more new episodes and I'm trying to do so it works forever). The day of the raid will be on saturday at 15:00 GMT for Europe and 23:00 GMT for America, why those hours? Why GMT? GMT to have the same hour wherever you live, in regards to the time, if i'm not mistaken 23:00 GMT is 15:00 pacific time (if i'm wrong just tell me to change it), 15:00 is not the perfect time but that way if someone lives in a west or east country (compared to the server location i mean) they can join too (not the best time but almost is a begining), and it's on saturday because on sunday usually people don't have to work. You can try to queue for the raid at any time but it'll be good to try from that time to half hour later (i mean from 15:00 to 15:30) so more can get in the raid without waiting endlessly.

    Since there are a lot of raids, the sunday will be other day to play at the same time. In the case of saturday the idea is to go from the first raid to the last and begin again, in the sunday case we'll start in other raid to not be doing the same, to finish the cycle earlier, etc. At the moment there are 44 episodes, the half is 22 so the first raid from the episode 22 on is Brainiac's bottle ship (if i'm not mistaken) so from there to the end and begin from the first one.

    In regards to elite raids i thought to do it the following day of the normal raid, so if we do "the source wall" on saturday the elite would be done on sunday and if it was done in sunday it'll be done in monday. Why the following day? Because you have done recently the normal version and you know what you have to do (or part of it). Will we have to play two raids on sunday? No, when an elite raid have to be done on sunday the normal raid of that day won't be done (it'll be a little break). I have live outside the game, i cannot play an elite raid on monday, wait for when it comes in sunday. If we are taking some kind of a break due to elite, won't be both cycles syncronize at some point? Yes, but for the same reason they'll unsyncronize at some point too.

    Every saturday and sunday? What if there is a new episode or event or real world festival? It doesn't matter if there is a new episode/event, the schedule will go as it is, the only exception is going to be episode 44 (Black Adam) because it's coming right now and i want to let people to read this, think if it's a good idea (to cotinue with it or just drop it). With all of that in mind, probably the first one will be the 12/11/2022 or 19/11/2022.

    About the feats to try, speed one's (to finish in X minute/s) are out of this, i mean we will be trying feats that require time so in general terms is not the goal, obviously if it's posible to finish on time great for the raid. Moreover there are feats who are incompatible (wake every robot, don't wake up them) so i'll chose one of those and on the second time (the other cycle or the same) i'll chose the other one. I'll put a list of the one's we'll be doing that week.

    When to annunce the raids and the feats to try? It'll be on wednesday. The thursday is the reset day so everyone will be doing the weekles, the friday will be the same case (people who didn't make the thursday will be doing then), the saturday is the raid day (and we need to give people time to look where are the briefings and how to do things), sunday is the other raid day, the monday is far too way from the raid day as tuesday is, so it only leave us the wednesday.

    Some tips about this weekly raids.
    -Speed feats are out of this (we are trying other feats, it's not a priority) so no skip adds at all.
    -We are not skipping, so we'll clean adds and help team mates but also, if we are going from Europe to Africa is not necesary to go first to the moon...
    -Try to read the chat box almost in the raid of the day, once a week won't hurt and also you can coordinate better.
    -If you are trying a feat and the group fail three times, don't continue doing the feat, just kill the enemies and go for the next step of the raid or finish the raid. You can be failing for a thousand of reasons so it's not worthy to try it endlessly you'll have other oportunities, although you can ask for it on the chat box, to talk is the key, the three times rule is just to don't get stucked and if there is a divided opinion to give a 'final' decision.
    -If you don't have role gear (tank, healer or controller) just queue as dps, a role player can kill things (slowly but it can) a dps cannot substitute a role player.
    -I'm sure everyone is doing but just in case, wait for everyone before start the fight with the boss, and let the tank to start it, it's faster with everyone fighting than with the half of the team.

    To beg is not nice but...end game playes (or players who have the feats), try to join the raids to help the queues and to do the feats, even if they are longer than the ones you are playing at the moment, almost queue for that half hour after that continue with your normal playing. What will be your reward if you do? The doubtful satisfaction of helping a damsell in distress? To play the game from the beginning to the end? No reward at all, just a thumbs up at the end of the raid when it's finish.
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  2. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    List of raids to the first post with the announcement (to know what feat were done and maybe to see the tips other give then)

    PS: I hope i can edite this on the future if this idea succed, if not i hope an admin can edit it.
  3. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    All of this goes against what i have been playing all this time (i have been just queuing blindly and asking for a feat while fighting) but it'll be interesting to do the game in a chronological order.

    All that said, now let's see if there are suggestions, ideas and everything you may have on mind.

    PS: Since there is not a thumb down (why it doesn't exist on the forum?) i strongly discourage to give a thumb up, better to express if you agree or disagree with words.
  4. TheLorax 15000 Post Club

    Thank you. :D
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  5. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    Hahahaha, i'm glad to help, there is nothing worse than a thread or an article [on a newspaper] that keep you kidnapped until the very end.
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  6. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    I thouht this thread would have more success since people cannot get into some content or get some feats, well anycase it has a lot of interest for me, it'll be interesting to do all raids in order. And now, with the new developed 'Scorecard feats UI' there's not better time than this, so as it was announced:
    So at 15:00 GMT in Europe servers and at 23:00 GMT USA servers (which is 15:00 pacific time i believe), giving to each feat three (3) tries (after that just go for next boss or finish the raid):

    The 12/11/2022 we'll do the Khandaq [The original].
    The feats we'll do:
    • Raid expert Khandaq: which is to complete the raid.
    • [There wasn't a lo to pick to be honest hehe].
    The 13/11/2022 we'll do Brainiac's bottle ship.
    The feats we'll do:
    • Edge of extinction: To defeat Zod after the laser is charged to 80%
    • The analog age: Which is to break the ¿coffins? of supergirl and Zod each time until you kill Brainiac.
    • If my mind serves me right in this the raid where there is a point in which you have to activate two consoles in two different areas at the same time so chat is your friend, clean the areas and then do a countdown to activate them at the same time. To be honest i do believe this is the hardest part of the raid, if this is done, the raid will be finish.
    PS: Speedy resurrection is out because as you know we do are not trying to do the speed feats, but it's worthy to have it on mind.
    PPS: Why those hours? Check first post.
  7. Reinheld Devil's Advocate

    Just a quick question and suggestion. Why do Khandaq? Granted the raid is run very little, but as it's just a completion, it doesn't really require much of a group to do it...just random will get the job done. That and probably 90% of the players have the feat from the skip token as it's included. You might spend much of your 'feat night' time just trying to get people interested in that one. Personally I'd stay away from feats included in the skips, just to widen the interested audience. If you personally haven't used a skip, and 'need' the feat I get it, but there likely is a skip coming in Jan, so you'll get it then anyway.

    To my experience, the key in getting a good feat group going is to A) pick something that will build quickly and B) run a run that you will likely get a few 'easy' feats first, so you can then go for 'harder' ones. Success begets more interest. That's why generally if I'm doing a set of raid feats I don't go for the 'no death' one first. I like to start with ones that we can for sure get done with co-ordination, people see those feats pop and want more, and will then be willing to take a few stabs at the 'harder' feats, even if you fail a few times.

    BBS feats....that's spot on for a 'feat' group run. It's unlikely you'd get either feat in a random group, and BBS is one of the harder ones to complete if there is no co-ordination. I'd guess if you get those 2 feats done, you can probably talk the group into a quick re-run for the harder 'Digital age' feat where you don't break the coffins.

    But +1 for trying to get it going. Hopefully you get some takers and get the feats!
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  8. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    Thank you for the nice words and i do hope that when the planets are aligned, you have your hot coffee/cold beer on the table you can join too, maybe not all the times but...from time to time...

    Nice question, thanks for asking it. To be honest i thought about skip the khandaq, the batcaves and fortress of solitude and start from the DLC, because a lot of reasons (you can go in through the portal, they are easy, they give you the feat on the cr skip (i didn't remember it until you pointed but you are totally right), etc) but in a thread of this forum whose name i cannot remember someone said he was struggling to briefing there so by doing the raid it'll be clean enough to brief easily. Furthermore it'll be interesting to see how was khandaq before all the Sins of Black Adam happend.

    Totally agree with trying the easy feats first, last week i was on phoenix cannon and just said "lantern last?" No one answered but everyone left the lantern for the last and avoid his attack just perfect (i wish i have told them to not kill the captain? On the fight against hawkgirl but we cannot have everything i guess hehe), so i'll try to pick the easy one's on the first run if posible, and i guess you say it due to the 80% laser but that's why i set the 'three times rule' not too few not too much tries from my view,

    To be honest, when i saw the BBS was going to be the other raid some nightmares come to my memory, that raid can be as easy as a walk or hard as going to hell, i had been in both scenarios with people so well coordinated which it was almost like a race and others in which after being stuck in the computers moment for....endless time you have to disband. Probably a more friendly point would have been Boombshell paradox or Olympus, but since the saturday is going to be easy i do hope they don't get discourage so much the sunday (not only this one, the next two sundays are going to be....well, it'll be an experience for sure).
    About your idea of Digital Age, yes, i thought about it and if people check the chat maybe i'll do but i don't want to take too much time from people so i just ask for one here and if i'm lucky enough i'll ask for the other in game. I chose analog instead of digital because it's easy to do people break stuff than avoid to do it and also the less enemies the easy is the run but yes, it's a good point.
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  9. Reinheld Devil's Advocate

    Yeah, the 'easiest first' was more for a put together hunting group. In a random queue, I'd take whatever we can get. But when hunting, I hate when groups want to go for the hardest feat first, then burn out trying and break up with nothing to show for the multiple hours of trying.

    It's almost as bad as people wanting to combine 2 feats that are counter productive. Like I was in a group wanting TSD not getting hit by supermans flare AND not destroying the statues. If done in 2 runs, it would have take 15 min to get to supes, get flare feat, disband then go back in, get the statue feat on 2nd run. Instead we spent about an hour trying to get both and either getting hit by a flare, or knocked out by the adds when everyone bunched up behind the last column...then the group broke up. Some things just don't work well together and are faster to chunk down in parts.

    Again, good luck. I don't need any of those feats in BBS or Khandaq, but maybe next week?
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  10. Bruce’s Slippers Active Player

    Does anyone have cliff notes for this novel
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  11. WilderMidnight Steadfast Player

    Admirable effort. It takes a lot of effort to put together a group for older content. I find timing and spontaneity are key. I'm in my own little league with no other members so its difficult getting "group effort" feats so when I see someone shouting for something I need I'll jump in. I have never even attempted the "Golden Apple" feat from the Olympus raid that went live what...four, five years ago? I hate the feeling of being tied down to something. I think most players just wing it when they log on and take things as they come.

    Right now were still in the throes of a new dlc. It's going to make running older content even more difficult as everyone is focused on leveling up a new op item, artifact and accumulating renown and marks.

    Wish I had some advice for you. Try assessing easy feats and use the on duty tab to queue into them. Add any players you come across who are at the same spot your in and make your own chat cannel. Take it from there.
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  12. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    Oh my goddess Circe, not in TSD but i had been in that situation too, people sometimes just don't think at all.

    You'll be welcome, the good thing of doing this thread is that you (and every user) know the schedule beforehand and can be ready for the raid they need. I don't need all the feats neither but it'll help to my other characters to get them.

    Hahahaha, the draft version was even 'better', i do know that the text wall will make a lot of users to run away without reading it but...i cannot help myself in that sense. By the way, the cliff note could be the first paragraph.

    Thanks for the nice words.

    That's the story of my character's life.

    I don't remember which are the feats of Olympus at the moment but....eventually i'll have to put it here so...

    I know that's why i waited a coulpe of weeks, but i hope people can take a little break from episode (i know, too much hopes on my side, to hope people get in, to hope people do the feat, what can i say, after all Cyfaill's mentor is Superman).

    All the advices are very welcomed as your help when the turn of Olympus arrives maybe?
  13. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    I'm glad to say that Khandaq was a complete success, a couple of minutes waiting to go in and done in no time (i don't know how much it was but it felt very short), even i was missing a couple of briefs and complete them. Let's see the how the Brainiac's bottle ship goes, i do hope it'll be good too.
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  14. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    Brainiac's wasn't a totally success, probably the people are a little afraid of the raid and they are focusing on the new episode but on the other hand that waiting time (an hour) let me complete some open world feats at Long Live Legion so after all it was a successful time.
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  15. Reinheld Devil's Advocate

    You get the zod feat at least?
  16. catplaysxoxo Loyal Player

    I read the entire paragraphs and noticed you just want to do raids. However the main goal is to get feats right? It is harder to get 7 other players especially ones who are willing to learn and listen. I would have suggested doing solo instances first and tackle the feats that show up in the scorecard (new feature).
  17. Reinheld Devil's Advocate

    Yeah, but she's trying to build groups to do feats. Granted, a 4 person group is easier to build, but what do solos have to do with it? Can't group up for those. Duos, sure, but finding 1 willing partner isn't really requiring a wide broadcast....LFG can generally score that as long as the population is ok at the time.

    My suggestion, would be to target something with some easy feats that don't take re-running...maybe a hard one mixed in. Personally, when I used to run people through a feat run, one of may favorites was Love and War. There are 4 feats you can get in that run in 1 run, 3 of which are relatively easy and just take some co-ordination and knowledge of the feat parameters (can't do random most times) and the 4th that takes co-ordination and mechanics skill. Success begets success, so getting the easy feats will generally get people in the mood to try the 'harder' one. Again, for chain feat hunting, early success will inspire people to try harder feats or multiple tries....I think it's an endorphin thing. Everyone likes seeing a feat pop. Personally I'd stay away from things that require re-runs and are focused on a 1 time last boss try. SG madness feats, or speed run is a good example. Once those feats are tanked, you have to re-queue and start again...and that burns people out quick.
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  18. Cyfaill Well-Known Player

    I wasn't even able to get in the raid hahaha, but part of it it's my fault, i'm trying this the hard way, i mean this character is a dps maybe i end up doing it healer but...for the moment...just dps.

    Thank you so much (i guess it was hard with all the typos i made (i'm not sure if there is something well written to be honest)).



    Well to be honest, the idea come to my mind due to other thread in which people said they had problems to do raids, so i though in create the thread, there are so many raids that it's hard to decide where to start and this way (like in LPVE) give the oportunity to the people to reunite in a point, the other option is to do as i did sometime ago and queue in everything. Obviously, as i don't have a lot of feats (i didn't care a lot on this character (who was supposed to be my main and ended being an alt (long or maybe not so long story) to help my main) although i do on my main) it'll be good for me aswell.

    I apreciate the advice, i'm already doing the solos, and personally i was going to do the duos and alerts at the same time than the raids (i mean, when i have to do the raid of amazon fury to do the alert before or after, like this sunday which i did the duo of the Brainiac's episode before queuing for the raid) but...now that you mention maybe instead of keeping for myself i should post it here too.
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  19. catplaysxoxo Loyal Player

    Because the goal is getting feats. Doing raids for feats requires roles and seven players. A solo is just yourself and only yourself to worry about if you mess up. A raid one of 7 players can ruin it for the whole group. That in itself is already a red flag. You have to coordinate with their schedule and your own. That is why I suggested doing solos first.
  20. catplaysxoxo Loyal Player

    Yeah ever since the scorecard feats appeared I been doing omni runs mostly solos as it just pops faster. Making this thread is a good idea so good on you. I'm on NAPS server, I'll run raids with you if you need a tank and it's not elite runs.
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