Weapon Mastery Nerf...why?

Exactly. That's why I loved Celestial so much. Having multi-keypress combos that I could mix and match to the given situation was fun! Now, I can still go that route, but I'll be less effective than if I just buff and perform repeated WM combos. I would hope that they have some grand plan to bring the rest of the game out of the shadow of WM, but I have my doubts, based on what Tunso has shared. The way they seem to be looking at it suggests that they think balance is already there, which is sad. The problem is that unless they can manage to rein in the precision damage from WM, traditional clipping and AMs will always take a back seat. Nothing else we can do will put out 10k+ damage per strike on a fairly regular basis, if at all.

The best rotation for hl right now is wm chompers wm light blast dont believe try it. Im trying to be patient because I know a nerf is coming its inevitable wm is supposed to be a alternative to clipping not completely over power it. So maybe there is hope on the horizon standing next to that looming damage pass that has yet to happen. We shall see..

For the players saying WM made cele weak I will say to them that cele was stronger than the rest because we had to range, if cele would have been released around t4, anyone sitting back spamming combos would have gotten doubled.

T1-t4 weapons were the bulk of everyone damage. All the top dps were using DW, Staff, and 1H. Most players on this thread is basing all there dps knowledge around t5, I will give you that t5 lasted a lot longer than the other tiers, but still y'all are basing everthing you know around t5.

People keep saying hold tap hold power don't take any skill, and tap power pd tap jc take so much more skill. In my experience it was more about what power you are than skill, most who are talking about this high dps skill was the strongest power, so where did the skill come in at? Before t5 HL was strong, but imo sorcery ice and gadgets was stronger, I was out dpsing hl with earth, what changed in t5 was the inability to melee or even mid-range content, so the power became king while weapons took a step back.

I would bet the house that if WM wasn't here the same powers would still be in the same order, because melee is back again. Weapons would still be doing the bulk of the damage, and anyone who is trying to hb/rifle jc range would be getting doubled. This was happening in the last part of t5 in the alerts. WM just brought weapons first back around

Then, add to it that Awesome Mechanics might want to have some flexibility. The electric revamp was ruined due to the AM. The loadout, and even now the rotation, leaves no room for flexibility or creativity. The enormity of the AM even detracts from the burst side of the powerset, too.

They have to nerf things,but for PVP.

I'm tired of nerf this because he oneshots me in PVP,nerf that power/weapon for PVP but leave it as is for PVE.

I don't PVP and if I do I'm farming stuff for feats.

I'm with you. Leave WM alone. I was totally against it in the beginning but I've grown fond of it. I like the fact that ANY power can be top DPS now with enough SP.

People need to stop worry about how OTHER people play the game. If you're one of those people who want to work all your powers and rotations to get your damage, that's great, have at it. But that doesn't mean everyone has to. Some people would rather show the game down, use the WM mechanic and still do their job as a DPS. I see no issue with that. Everyone should be able to enjoy this game the way they see fit.

Correction:

It's not "ANY power can be top DPS now...", it's that WEAPON MASTERY is top DPS. Powers are now pretty animations.

Thank you for stating the obvious.

Said the guy with hardly any SP for a 3 year player....just saying!

Hell, you're barely able to open up every weapon tree and get 3 WM combos.

I think when ALL powers are re-vamped this subject may change, I'll wait and see instead of crying before it goes live!

It may be a little OP at the time, but, let the Devs do their job and when they have finished, you may just like it!

Take a chill pill and call me in the morning...


IA ARMY

Dear lord please remove the scoreboard and scoreboard chasers out of the game I beg you

See, this is part of the problem. People seem to think that it's all or none. That is to say, if you touch WM, everything will go back the way it was before. That's completely and utterly false. WM is here to stay. Personally, I like the concept, just not the implementation. The balance is much too far on the precision side of the equation. All that is needed, IMO, to fix WM is to improve the balance. That doesn't mean "nerf" the damage. It means shift the equation toward the might side to balance it. That way, if you want to run a specific mod build, anywhere from full might to full precision, WM will complement that. You will, through your mod choice, determine the emphasis of your powerset and weapon combination. The way it is now, to mod anything less than precision lean (usually full precision) is pointless. The WM precision damage far outweighs any might damage you can do, even in a full might build. By improving the balance, those who want to just blast away with weapon attacks can do so, while those who want to utilize more of their powerset can do so. Everyone wins!

Well, it didn't seem very obvious to you, or you wouldn't have posted what you did.

Before Weapon Mastery, that was where a lot of powers already were.

Everyone talks like this focus on weapon damage and precision focus is something new. People were already going for precision builds before Weapon Mastery came around, even for Might based powers.

had this char for a year.....
and....
i refuse to even acknowledge your post after you called WM "a little OP"

It's fine!

I figured you shoot down logic!


IA ARMY

I agree that how I want to play personally shouldn't be how everyone has to play the game. However, that's exactly what has happened with WM. Because not everyone could clip to the speed of the top tier of damage players, the developers added in WM. THat's great. It was supposed to give folks a different option and a shot at topping the scoreboards in damage out themselves. Except, now we have seemed to reach the same result with a new mechanic. Now, the only way to top the charts is to perfect the WM window.

Previous complaints from "the playerbase": Why do you force me to clip in order to top the charts? I want to use my weapon!

Current complaints from "the playerbase": Why do you force me to use WM to top the charts? I want to see my powers!

I don't necessarily want it to get nerfed. I just think there should be options. If people want to have rotations that are power heavy they should have that option and it should be on par with the weapon heavier rotations. Why does one have to outweigh the other so heavily?

Yes, prec was always better then might
but might dps had a good chance of beating a prec dps
but now that's impossible, might is relying on the WM crit take that away and everyone will be spamming WM only

just stop talking...

Make me!


IA ARMY

Obviously I meant you can use WM and still be top DPS despite which powerset you use. I would have thought that was obvious enough, guess not. At any rate, thank you again for spelling the obvious out in more detail.