Weapon Mastery Nerf...why?

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Doc Holliday, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. Whizzkid Dedicated Player

    You are one of many that should know that in this game/community the word balance, more often than not, translates to nerf :eek:. However, IMO, they'd have to be extremely careful in doing so because a portion of the community is obviously in protest against WM's existence, some just want it tweaked, and others love it. That's just an observation from forum postings alone but either way, as always, no matter what the Devs do to balance it they will undoubtedly upset a party. Everyone can't win. Well, at least not in this scenario.
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  2. Remander Steadfast Player

    I completely understand. I guess I just see how great this game could be compared to where it is. Ever hear of learned helplessness? ;)
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  3. Pathosgrim Dedicated Player

    After GU 38: " I see Precision based DPS that do nothing but spam Shield Weapon Mastery.
    I think the damage needs to be looked at.:rolleyes: "
  4. Pew New Player

    The balance problem is not powers or the damage of weapon attacks (including WM finishers).
    The problem is itemization.

    Back when i went into my first raid in the game ever (BC1) i remember going in as almost max geared dps at the time with 1,8k might and 1k effective prec (80dps weap + 200prec). Weapon and power damage was really balanced back then and small changes in a patch shifted what was being used constantly.

    Nowadays you are looking at 4.xK might and ~5k effective prec.

    Imagine those ratios at launch...
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  5. Lantern Doomblade New Player

    Idk about PvE but WM is ridiculous in PvP. It's especially annoying watching people in the air spamming ranged WM at you. I don't think it should be removed but I think that PVP gear should have a higher health/toughness to precision ratio than it does now. I also think that might damage should be buffed slightly so that players will have to actually conserve power and use it carefully instead of just going ham with their weapon. Right now, you can deal close to more damage with no power cost, than you can using your powers. That just isn't right.
  6. fyshinatux New Player

    yea, I believe I mentioned this when I asked why 92 item level balanced gear gave so much more effective precision than it did effective might.

    Have an up-thumb.
  7. the solowing Unwavering Player

    so as a handblasting healer that can spam square tap tap hold and put up arguable dps damage, their is nothing wrong with something that isnt hard to learn, master or execute, but makes using the resource you were given useless...
  8. fyshinatux New Player

    just ignore him, he's a bad player that doesn't realize how bad Weapon Mastery is for the game in its current state.
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  9. Foe Evah New Player

    The devs acknowledge it is a problem, but here is a discussion more oriented towards pvp: https://forums.station.sony.com/dcuo/index.php?threads/weapon-mastery-is-ruining-pvp.209270/
  10. the solowing Unwavering Player

  11. Remander Steadfast Player

  12. Foe Evah New Player

    That thread is a pvp discussion thread and nothing beyond that (there were others prior to it). The acknowledgement is not located there. I will spare myself some time and search the source for your convenience when possible, as I do not have it booked marked at this time. Apologies for the misunderstanding.
  13. Remander Steadfast Player

    Oh, that's cool. It's just that the only acknowledgement of any sort I've seen was from Mepps. Something to the effect of "we are aware of the concerns and are looking at balance issues going forward...blah, blah, blah." Not a specific acknowledgement that there is a problem. Just an acknowledgement of player concern.

    EDIT:
    Here's a quote from a locked thread. He's said something similar is a few threads on the subject.

    "Thread locked as we devolve into personal insults which, reminder, are absolutely not acceptable. They will not get you listened to, and they will get you banned.

    The team is reviewing all feedback. There's a ton of misinformation and confusion in this thread as to what Awesome Mechanics are and how they should work with Weapon Mastery. We will work on informative posts and getting that information in the game so there is less of that.

    There is also quite a bit of feedback on the balance of Weapon Mastery vs. anything else. We are investigating further into the real numbers and will continue to carefully monitor. Any changes will be made slowly over time vs. anything fast or large or at once"
  14. SethZoulMonEl 10000 Post Club

    For those looking for the quote and a way to get back to it:

  15. Doc Holliday New Player

    Problem is they never tweeted deadlink and it's not in the game currently.

    It's here now and does make skill points viable again.
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  16. SethZoulMonEl 10000 Post Club

    They'd have to remove Themyscira Divided with weapon mastery for it to work. That alert is based on the damage done with weapon mastery, and the community would not be happy with spending 45 minutes to an hour in there on average without weapon mastery. Imagine the threads that would occur if they removed Themyscira Divided, though. Scary thought...
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  17. the solowing Unwavering Player

    at the cost of destroying pvp and making pve a spamfest, and making anybody new to the game or whoever doesnt have 50 skill points kicked from content

    theyve trade in one problem for another
  18. Pathosgrim Dedicated Player

    Remove WM? Lmao, wow you might dpses and dps trinity users sure want your coveted "use this power and win" spot back
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  19. Doc Holliday New Player

    Pvp was destroyed long before WM, let's be real here.

    And 50 sp 105cr should always have been unacceptable.

    SP is your new level after you reach 30.
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  20. the solowing Unwavering Player

    they seem to be stepping on their own toes while trying not to on alot of things, the games lacking solid direction..
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