Weapon Mastery Nerf...why?

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He tested Weapon Mastery ALONE.

Nature WITHOUT Weapon Mastery.

and Sorcery WITHOUT Weapon Mastery.

I'm referencing the FIRST of those tests. If he was using Weapon Mastery with a burst power, then that wouldn't be "just" weapon mastery as he stated.

So on the assumption that he really ONLY used Martial Arts WM, he should NOT have been able to achieve 1800 DPS with anything less than 18,000 precision.

There's no way to over-simplify that, the man claims to have used JUST weapon mastery, no need to bring Might into the calculation at all.

As for the highlighted section, I'm sure there are modifiers based on enemy defenses, what tier content your in etc... but that doesn't change the fact that the stat is either completely wrong, or presented VERY poorly.

Tunso never said he used just WM, and he did say he used a PI for the power.

Oh, my apologies then, but that wasn't "just" weapon mastery then was it?

The "true" "just weapon mastery" test would be Weapon Mastery combos with a buff power being used for the clipping at most.

Otherwise it's "weapon mastery + powers and PI".

I still have to say that, regardless of all that, his findings are wrong, and I'm not the only person I've seen that got completely different results from what he did.

Simple as that.

Technically speaking, the WM mechanic includes the might buff. That's the only really skillful part of the mechanic. I'd venture to say that he would consider the raw precision combos to be ineffective use of the mechanic. Problem, as we all know, is that most of the damage comes from the precision part anyway.

which is my only REAL complaint.

That's all I've ever wanted them to fix, I don't want to see the majority of my damage being Precision if I'm modding and spec'ing for might...

Fix should be to balance the precision and might aspects of WM in relation to a balanced build. That would allow players to the lean the spec whichever way they choose in order to complement their particular play style. Maybe if I keep saying it, it will come true.

No worries. I didn't see it as an argument, just a good debate. I enjoy good debates. My discussion with you has been nothing but a pleasure. That is why I am all over these threads, to help people understand how WM really works. My apologies if some of my posts were not clear enough earlier, but nonetheless I am glad you got the main message I was trying to get across whether it be from my posts or Deathmike.

If there is anything I can try to clarify for you, feel free to PM me. Again, this debate has been a pleasure, and I am glad we now see eye to eye on WM and all these other layers of combat. The future is really bright for this game, and I can't wait to see what is coming down the line. For me personally it just keeps getting better and better.

Exactly, so if I spec and mod FULL might, I should do MIGHT damage for the majority of my damage... yes? IDEALLY.

My chat has only gone out once since GU 37, on sunday night. Other then that, I dont have to toggle my stuff when I log in, I dont have to switch between chats to get everyone in, etc. For the most part, its been great.

My problem is that sp decide how good you are. A 53 cr dps that bought 100 sp will beat a 106 cr dps with 50 sp. And skill has nothing to do with it. I used to have 50 sp and be able to beat people in damage or solo heal anything.

God my back hurts just reading this post.

It terrible u just learned sp makes a stronger toon or else u would've been working on them.but now ur mad it exposes that ur not......

I knew they made me stronger. Just I saw no point as I have skill at this game so I can do pretty well without having to get sp. Do I have more than 50 now, yes. Should that be the case, no. Skill deserves to rule over people with no life getting over 160 sp.

This statement couldn't be more wrong and not only that, but this completely contradicted this. I wish I had the time because I'd give you a full reply as to why but I do not. So, I'll leave it at this for now.

Lol so now anyone with more sp then you have no life...
My life got me a ps4...try that thing called life sometime

Lol. 3 years playing and I have no life I guess haha. Because some forum rando said so. Ahahaha.

This game doesn't take skill anymore. So sadly with no malice towards you, thats not saying much.

Imo its really just a very vocal minority that hates WM. From my experiences in game most people think its one of the best things to ever happen to this game

You did not mention whether you performed this test on the test server or on live. Just curious if anyone has performed this test with the new advanced mechanics for improving power efficiency through the DOT stacking.

Umm... Nature's Advanced Mechanic IS on live last I checked.

Having more SP than another player should merit some type of reward. I don't care if you think so otherwise. The main issue here isn't WM or SP. It's the fact that a portion of the player base think of PvE instances as a competition. What ever happened to teamwork? Competition isn't entirely bad but please stop the damn crying already. If you get out DPS'ed, suck it up and move the hell on.

Personally, I like it because I love eye popping numbers. And my brawler to 2-hand is pretty awesome.

Generally, I find the laziness/boringness of WM to be in the long range triangle hold. Doesn't really appeal to me, but since my electric didn't have a good target-ranged burst damage (at least not until 38), I was happy to get something useful to spam when melee range meant death.

I don't need WM nerfed. I just want to be able to use my powers and feel like I'm not my time.