#vendorgear - Gearing Up Too Fast?

I feel you man.. hopefully episode 18 will make your playing time much easier and smoother . I believe it will.

I think part of the problem is how with the shift to monthly content T7 has a massive range of difficulty so the "relevant content" isn't actually all that relevant for someone gearing up. Of the 113 minimum stuff flash burgulary, Bombshell paradox, Unholy Matrimony, Happiness Home, Fatal Exams, Desecrated Cathederal and the solo would eat the alt alive even though he's supposedly able to run them. Meanwhile Hall of Hades, Labarynth of Lost Souls and throne of the dead are largely well dead and the solo/duo/alert's are all below the relevancy window.

Cant be cr higher even one when cr is king
Cant have affinities while vendor does not
Either and we are still in the same boat we have now. No good

Keep in mind as much as people are upset plenty of former players who would be swayed by a return to vendor will not be happy with how far dcuo has lowered the difficulty bar. Bar is lowered simply to assure as many people as possible beats said content and thus can replay away

Ps is the majority of the population and also riddled with glitching cheaters. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS IT OK EVER FOR THEM TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE REST again. Still ubber mad from t5.

I could care lessmifmthe stat gains was considerable despite not stupid high of drop but thats it or we are right back here.

For replay sales and for those who want "special" a gold something that can bump ur cr plus one. Prime helm type of item as that rare one cr is not a killer but only due to the rareity not a set of gear u would expect to finish.

Time to fix the problem not minimize it.

Ah. I'm on PC. Maybe once Cross-Play happens.

Good points but i still think gear drop should be at least 1 cr higher than vendor gear. its tooo easy to get vendor gear. Farming gear>farming marks. IMO.. agree to disagree i guess. But the devs feel the same way i feel. You dont have to grind that extra Cr.
Simple solution would be have the whole set of the vendor gear match the NPC CR and have the gear drop be a level higher. PLayers still have the option to get a tad stronger or stay content. I think alot of people are panicking. But, when episode 18 drops we will have all the time in the world to grind again and hold on to the gear as long as possible instead of switch gear every two weeks. But like i said before in my previous post, I STILL FEEL THE DROP RATES SHOULD BE INCREASED SLIGHTLY. ABOUT 5-10% INCREASED. IMO. I only threw those figures out there bcuz i have no idea what it is currently set at.

Cant wait for that day!

Episode 18 sounds better, but haven't we all fallen for that? When something is done with good intentions it's not executed properly and we're stuck with the horrible result for months.

I have no doubt Ep18 will be better, a tiny bit... I'm still in favor of Vendor gear being better because I'd rather the Effort/Reward not the Luck/Reward.

I'm just going to sit back and...

Not sure if u were her in the beginning but we had the 1st two years able to obtain the very best gear. Even better stats is a concession many would protest IF the system did not have us beat into submission.

Ur plus one cr I guess screw the unlucky in survival mode aye? Normal content yea it would woek but once the SM came along right back here. I tell u as someone always excluded due to cr this idea can jump off a cliff.

Any extra cr would only go over well through prime helm rare items and gold.

Not sure if ur taking into account the absolutely awful content difficulty. If the cr is higher its legitamatly must have just like now. Must have means content stays cream puff so every pug can win and more content just like the overly easy mode we currently are sadled with.

U ignore this SM and the simple fact the cheaters end up prospering the most. U also ignore the core issue at hand same as the devs do. We want to obtain the best gear not 2nd class gear so ur suggestions fix nothing at all.

U also forget it is how the game was originally designed and how it was when popular and the only defense is u like it better. Id askmu provide ways it helps without hurting but it cant. Only way u make it work is simple stat boosts. Why on earth if the devs were willing after years of killing dcuo to fix it are u suggesting to keep the core issues. I dont need any explanation as we already delt with the countless ways it hurts and never found a single posative in two years and multiple attempts at making it work

and yet now we have the same issue, players are still leveling in a week by just replaying the one single piece of content with the highest gear, so taking it away from the vendor in no way helped the problem, also back in T4 gear prices where just ridiculous, 50k for a whole set was way too much considering T5 wasn't even going to be for the same marks. And honestly T4 was also full or raids, so they had more than enough sources for marks than ever, not to mention you still had marks from lower content also.

So over 3 months make all three episodes have same cr and scale raids in month 3 to full cr and everythjng else appropriately. Now u have all content to run as its all the same cr gear and the best is in vendor.

As far as mostly raids well this is my preference as any other model is role exclusional and that can simply take a hike imo.
Pricing is a non issue as all that is needed to be done is sit down look at hkw much every single thing including soda makers cost exo converters, EVERYTHKNG COSTING MARKS. Could care less if only % 1 uses em they need to be able to do so. Then take marks per week vs time relavant and u got pricing fair. Cost while in vendors has always been X% of whats capable and grind is part of every mmo.

It worked better then any system we have had t4 and previous. Yes some will always find a reason to co plIn but as unhappy as everyone is we need to go with the best model and error on the side of the customer or best gear obtainable.
I dont care about counter arguements honestly one way (vendor gear) had one real game issue at that time. Boredom which was a result of less game modes, and content taking to long to get to us. Just SM back then omg

You and Torikumu gotta stop posting in topics about vendor gear. I'm tired of giving you likes!

honestly I don't even know how to respond to what you said, but since you don't care neither will I, have a good day.

Ernie my response to dismiss ur opinions not cool so sorry. We have had everymtype of rewards not vendor and regardless of which issues arise. Even better stats and stats only (which I woukd support) opens the door for cream puff content. Every person who cant beat it is one who cant replay it and that seems like the driving force behind decisions. Alot of endured alot and lost many many freinds.

Last thing id like (I thought) was leaving a small opening they could use and twist to justify not fixing the issue. Turns out I am a little more concerned I acted like a jerk. So my fault and I am sure we will again disagree but by all means bud share ur opinion as we all should and again I am sorry. I believe everyone wants a great game in the end.

Problem is Mepps that there is a microscopic chance that we get top gear in four weeks without replays. That doesn't feel right.

I will always want the vendor gear to have the best gear. Know why ? Goals are key to life.

That's not a trade secret, that's the exact thing people are complaining about. Manipulate loot counter = run and replay1 instance over and over till you get the gear you want or until your eyes bleed out.

People don't like that system because it forces you to play a single instance every month and nothing else is even slightly important.

There are of course guys like you who have a higher resistance to repetitiveness (which is fine) but most people don't and running a single instance in order to ensure you get best gear is mindnumbing and annoying to most of us.

At least I have a plan and confidence of what I wanted to get when Vendor was the best. I have no plans or confidence now, when I'm hoping that I get a loot drop by chance, and then crushed in disappointment and anger not getting it, and may have to be forced to use replays half way through the month.

For real.........

I remember planning & strategizing on what content to run in order to obtain enough marks for my next gear piece. That was fun and kept the game open with many options to help progression. Queues were also much better, in general. My time (and money) invested in the game seemed to be worth much more than it is today.

Yes, going forward we will have less gear replacement. That is great news; however, the content that drops with episode 18 will be irrelevant for most players by episode 19 drops. That is due to LUCK or replay badge usage. The content in episode 18 will become irrelevant almost over night once episode 19 drops. The cause of this problem is due to best gear as dropped gear. This problem would not exist with BEST GEAR IN VENDOR.

I do know you also commented on the high number of marks we receive, 200 right now. However with 4 raids, 2 alerts, 4 duo and 2 solo being our 12 pieces of relevant content we would have around 170 MoV with those as our content. A drop in the current number we have today.

With 170 MoV a week it is roughly 680 between each episode. If you increased the pricing of gear by 2-3 times what is being charged today, giving our 170 MoV give or take will not be an issue going forward due to the cost increase in gear, especially if we move to BEST GEAR IN VENDOR.

I also posted this morning my idea on to resolve the issue with Elite Gear in the BEST GEAR IN VENDOR thread. Instead of providing all the details about my idea I will recap the most important part. Players get an elite mark for completing elite content. The elite mark can be used along with vendor gear, Mark of Victory, and materials to make the elite piece the player choices based on the current vendor gear available.

I know there are concerns around replay sales loss; well many players have already stated that they would be willing to use more replays given that they know the reward they are working towards, and the only way to know if this is true or not, is to go one or two full monthly content cycles to see if replay badges sales will drop or not.

There are two things you cannot avoid in life and they are TAXES and CHANGES...As for DCUO, the loot system needs a change.

Being away for a week and coming back, I see more post about the loot system, randomness, and loot drop rates: all of these post are complaints about these issues. I hope DBG is looking into a change to the gearing system for episode 21. I'm hoping a change comes by than.