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I agree with MsTickle Fate and at risk of wading briefly into a conversation I'd personally rather not I think it's pertinent to warn people not to get sucked into the hyperbole ObsidianChill has created with his latest video.

He agreed to promote the video game and instead chose to do the opposite, his removal is unsurprising and for those that have been around since the beginning you'll note he also had a video removed for sharing an exploit earlier on, so this is not his first run in with the people running the creator program.

We're here to play a video game and its the weekend, time for some fun and less doom and gloom.

The idea of what dcuo could have been if devs were able to update/upgrade dcuo to unreal engine 4.
As other mmos devs were able to.

I don't disagree, but seeing as he's a creator who was already banned (hence the 'Not' in his name) at some point, and has a long list of videos that are critical of the game in one way or another (not all, but some), seems like the better idea would have been to never accept him into the program.

It does cast a bad light on the creators who are still 'in' though. Now knowing they can't say almost anything negative without losing their status as official 'creators', might they be less than honest in their opinions?

Maybe the reason OC was chosen in the first place was so he'd be an easy 'example' to sacrifice later...to keep others in line.

Or one could view it as them giving him a fresh start/another chance.

Though there might be an equal or greater chance they just didn't know him. I doubt Mepps kept an enemies list, and there probably wasn't a video on a loop in the office of him and Spytle kicking rocks.

If they post critiques, I haven't noticed, not that I exhaustively follow anyone's output.

I think you are way way way overthinking this. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone at the company remotely cares one way or another.

But, really, this was inevitable. Chill was never not going to be Chill, so he was always going to inevitably give his opinions, and DCUO was never going to tolerate that, so it was just a matter of time.

I do think DCUO should have given the members of the Creator's League some guidelines when they signed people up, which apparently they didn't do, but I suppose DCUO figured it was obvious "creators" should be expected to say only nice things. I'm honestly surprised Chill thought they expected otherwise.

If I were him, when they asked him if he'd like to join, I'd have asked a few questions about what the boundaries were of what he could and could not say and remain in the League. I mean, not doing so... well, we see what happened. And apparently he never asked? That's just... not thinking things through. And if he asked, he never said anything about it in his video, unless I just missed those parts.

I also find it unsurprising that DCUO would take a completely minimalist approach to communicating with members of the Creator's League. I suspect that whoever runs the Creator's League barely communicates with the members, though I could be entirely wrong and perhaps there's lots of friendly chit-chat. I'm just guessing.

I mean, there ARE companies that could want to recognize some players who give serious critiques and feedback. It's not absolutely unheard of. But it would take an initiative from the very top of the company and it would take an investment in time and effort from the company, so I'm not remotely surprised DCUO isn't doing that.

"Hi, we want you to give us free commercials and say absolutely nothing seriously critical or negative" is very much the guideline I'd expect a company to run with. Companies overwork their employees and give them far too much to do in far too little time. It's how capitalism generally works. There are occasional exceptions, but the video game industry is not famous for them.

This whole thing is simply how corporations generally act. That's all it is. Anyone surprised has little experience with the workings of multimillion-dollar corporations.

Point was that assuming some person NEVER watched a chill video, then said "hey...who is this guy and what is he about that he's in the creator league", it wasn't like they weren't going to see the 100+ other videos where he's, on average, critical of them. Seems wacky to draw some invisible line where if he just never said anything negative starting today...it somehow would make the other videos moot.

But hey, they accepted those other few people who were completely unknown quantities and don't really post any videos. I'd say maybe they were just taking all applicants, but I know a few other creators were complaining they couldn't get into the program.

Personally I didn't feel the offending videos were that scathing....no where near as bad as some others he's posted.

Here's my main comment on the video, for what it's worth:

And Chill then has some passionate defenses of his original remarks against the labels DCUO pasted on them, all of which were besides the point, because he's not in a court of law, and DCUO literally gets to make up whatever rules it wants to about how it runs its own Creator's League, and it is judge, jury, and executioner, so arguing with their reasoning is utterly pointless and futile.

It's their League, and what members, or prospective members, or former members, or anyone else think of their rules, or the way they run it, is completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter how "fair" any of it is. Corporations don't give a sh*t about being "fair."

But I appreciate how upset he must feel to be tossed, so it's entirely reasonable for him to get his feelings out on his own video. I don't fault him for that, no matter that it won't change anything.

I'm sorry it worked out this way. But he'll still get to do his videos and he'll still have his audience. Nothing really changes.

That's a low bar to hurdle.

Sorry, Chill. That's the "old" ObsidianChill, okay? Peace. Really, I'm a big fan. Honest.

Thinking about it, given how one person was put on the Creator's League list just because she put "DCUO" in the title of a video, but never put any actual DCUO content in the video, and another person who got on the list did only one video, I strongly suspect that if ObsidianChill hadn't put a criticism in the title of a video -- "Episode Isn't Ready" -- he probably could have gotten away with saying whatever he wanted IN his videos, because in all likelihood nobody from DCUO would have ever bothered to actually watch/listen to any of his videos.

It's putting it in the title of the video that called attention to the fact that he was being critical.

I absolutely may be wrong, but I'd bet a shiny nickel on this.

The whole reason for the Creator's League is to get people to provide content without having to pay them. The entire thing smacks of spending an absolute minimum of employee time on it, and I suspect whomever at DCUO picks "creators" spent about ten seconds doing searches for creators.

I may be wrong! But why would they spend more time when they don't have to? How would they afford to? They can't even keep track of these forums, let alone sit around watching YouTube videos.

Well, in that I agree. They are free to remove anyone from the program they want. It's their playground, we just swing on the swingset. They were also free to not let the guy even join the group too.

Funny thing is I remember when they first did the announcement of the program. I saw Metanite and thought "Makes sense", Multiverse, and thought "yeah...sounds about right", but when I saw Chill's name I literally thought "Hmm...have they seen any of his videos?"

I guess they had not.

All content creator programs are unpaid or underpaid advertising campaigns. Anyone that thinks otherwise is oblivious or living for their own inability to get an actual Netflix special. It was never about feedback or working with the community that so aggressively hates the developers and criticizes them vigorously for **** every other MMO does albeit just slightless worse than every other game.

Heh, and to think once upon a time I got in the DCUO's Community Round Table™ despite (or maybe even because of) my constant complaint threads on forums. How times have changed. Not that I felt that was a perk that was nice anyway.

this week, i have gotten so many utube channels popping up in my feed from ppl i dont know, all hating on the episode or the currency in the marketplace, and i only watch OC.

i kinda had a good laugh at the algorithm, the state of affairs in the game, and now the video OC made stating he is removed lolz

been a wild week just from utubes algorithm alone! and not a good week for dcuo according to the same algorithm

i recently left my online game that i started playing, to replace this one, about 2 months ago and those algorithms (video titles) have been nuts too, all hell is breaking lose over there as well. and those are content creators for that game and they are upset at the changes. the devs over there seemed to have eliminated the dolphins and went full on krakens only on that game (marvel strike force)

i currently have no online gaming i play daily anymore, but i dont mind, got huge works stretches keeping me busy

I watched the video last night at work. I will admit from the way I see he it OC handled it "professionally" enough. He went over a list of things that were stated that he did and he said his stance on them. That's all I will say about that in general.

I do know when they created the creator league and than for the most part that is where we've gotten a bunch of information about the game instead of the devs... I considered that a problem and than I just guessed that the intent of the creators was to only provide free labor for the company.

I don't begrudge anyone who is the league (I mean maybe the folks who never really did anything for them but that would be it) and most of them would probably do the work even if it didn't exist. I also do think though that anyone with enough sense would try to vet people joining this creator league if you were looking for free labor.... and I'd argue if anything's that more at fault than anything.

Yep. The one thing we now know for certain is that Chill's opinion is NOT for sale.

The other thing we are free to suspect is that DCUO will try BUYING favorable opinions. Something to consider when perusing the forums.

You know who you are.

Seems like he kept it too real https://tinypic.host/images/2024/09/29/IMG_3498.png

As he should.

Agree 100%. I just find it funny that they made that bio and then got offended lol.

DCUO is far far far too cheap to be interested, and far far far too uninterested in the opinions of, who, random forum posters? Why should they give a sh*t what any of us say?

You'd have to have an incredibly inflated sense of self-importance to think that what anyone says on the forums matters to think that DCUO would spend two cents to influence anyone. They don't even bother to pay anyone on staff to respond to use or even, so far as can tell, to read most of the forums.

Even when Mepps was here, he only read a tiny proportion of the forums. Why would the company care what some random ankle-biter players say? None of us have the faintest degree of influence on the game, or on players.

Go shout on LFG in the game and ask if anyone has ever heard of any of us. Just about nobody will answer "yes." Let alone care what we say, let alone do what we say.

What a hilarious idea. As if.

(Yes, I'm actually raking in the big bucks, myself! Bwahahahahaha! )

Thanks, I'm going to use this next time a customer threatens to report me to corporate.

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be sarcasm. A perk of the content creators league is having their game subscriptions paid for by the studio. In return, those content creators are encouraged to push out content that influences us to buy the new time capsules, booster bundles, check out the latest episode, whatever. So indirectly DCUO is spending money to influence us.

As to your other comment, if you've paid attention to what's been going on, players asking the dev team legitimate questions and those posts/threads get straight up deleted instead of addressed. Does it take less energy to delete a post than answer a question with a quick yes or no? Also little comments get removed for no reason, a couple weeks ago I wished Zoe well with her new podcast and a few minutes later my post was deleted? *shrugs* Zoe also got another content creator's video removed from YouTube. I don't know, inflated egos aside, someone somewhere behind the scenes is getting rewarded to read the forums and watch videos.

What .. Zoe got someone’s video removed from YouTube who was it and why ? You can tell me in dm if you don’t wanna post it here but that’s some “crap” and definitely would make me think of her ins different light