Time to get rid of stat clamping

The US mens highest ever World Cup finish was 3rd and that was in 1930. They've done nothing but get embarrassed and have their a**es handed to them since and yet we have the gall to rename the world's favorite sport? Americans wonder why the rest of the world thinks we're arrogant...

You don't think the smiley and 'Merica was a giveaway that it was purposeful arrogance for humor's sake?

Some feats are sheer “feats of willpower.” Doing any number of high count feats…including Tragic, the Gathering…which is still tedious and there is no combat/clamp in the way of achieving it.

Where did i say you need high stats to do E+? I didn't. I implied that more stats are better for those who want to push to do E+ content, never said they NEEDED to have high stats. The "need" to have high stats comes from the community surrounding E+ and the elitism of players wanting things to be done fast and without a hitch/wipe. What i did say however is that people who have gotten feats do not help others with feats if the feat is hard. Most higher end players do not help the lower end players they dont know with feats because they dont want to waste time doing stuff for nothing. That is a community issue, all of this is a community issue because higher players do not invest time into other players to bring more skilled and high stat players to end game.

If there were more skilled and high stat players at end game, there would be many more Elite/Elite+ runs on a daily basis, more people running for harder feats etc. The player base would be so much better if the older, higher skilled players would just get off their high horse and nurture/help/teach the lower levelled players.

Do you have any proof that more “high stat players” in EG would result in more elite/+ runs? How do you know it wouldn’t follow the same pattern we had before the clamp? Somethings to hard so they wait a year + to do hard content. There’s also nothing stopping lower stat players from forming a group with others to do those harder runs. In + the difficulty comes more from not following mechanics than not having enough stats. Yes more stats is always better for harder content. But having 10billion health might prec etc won’t help a player if they can’t follow mechanics. There is always a reason as to why players say they can’t do something. But it’s rare for someone to admit that maybe they are the issue.

Yes... Its called DLC progression. Youll see more elite runs being posted as the DLC progresses, its how it always goes in this case. Not only that, "LFG FGSe must have less than 200sp, low arts, no augments and a brain" is not gonna get many applicants because no one would be living in the elite content, especially if the tank has next to no stats... Would they try it? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean they will do it because they are quite literally lacking stats. The tank would be 2-3 shot in most cases. Healers may not be able to keep up due to lack of artifacts. DPS will be low and lacking, making every fight go on FAR longer than it should.

how are you gonna sit here and say "Stats dont matter for content" yet all you do is argue FOR the clamp and your arguments mostly consisting of "Stats do matter, Stat pierce is a thing, SP does matter, Artifacts do matter"? What is it? Do you need stats to do harder content in EEG? Do you not? Do you not need stats in EG? Do you? because let me tell you, Stats do matter a hell of a lot more than you are trying to let off. "Just do mechanics" is fine and i understand that, but if your tank is unable to survive because 1: They lack dominance. 2: They lack healing. 3: DPS cant kill things fast enough. 4: Mechanics to balance on top of all of that...

Only in the fact that the clamp added time and that you'd need other people to accomplish the feats...you are correct.

'Artifact finder', one of the more annoying RNG feats to 'grind' out now takes way more effort, even if the fights are easier today, than when the content was run as 'current', or even 1 DLC old. It took more effort the day before the clamp even, as you'd still need 1 other person and to do the entire run, which although fast because of overburning, still took time...and it was a walk in, so doable by a smaller group since inception.

As they have now introduced casual, and introduced private queue...if they ever decided to add more casual runs going back further, my only additional ask would be to separate the truly 'skilled' feats into clamped content and leave all the rng, count and checklist feats for casual. That's always been my suggestion with an optional tier. Sure, it would be cool if they were all in, but most 'skilled' feats can be done in 1 good run of the content...or by 1 group trying multiple times and failing before success. There are a ton of these 'feats of willpower' feats that simply add additional grind when we have plenty of that at endgame already.

Sorry what? Elite is never more active then when it first comes out because that’s when the bulk of players are running them. Each week the participation actually decreases. Complete opposite of “as players get more stats more run them”.

And when did I ever say stats don’t matter? I stated that all the stats won’t help if you ignore mechanics. I also stated on multiple occasions that more is always better when it comes to stats. But it should never be able to outright met you ignore mechanics.

It has been what 3 -5 years since they stat clamped and people are still talking about it? I just started playing again after 3 years so I know I have missed a lot.

Well, except this topic.

Part of me thinks they just want to create a new mega thread like the one true king.

I have been away for a while so do not shoot me for this question. What do you mean "found a way to custom queue"? We have always been able to queue for specific content.

I would be ok if they lifted the stat clamp for old open world content, not so you can one shot but at least make it easier to get some of the boss feats.

Then again, I haven't been in those worlds for quite some time, and I do not know how difficult they are now.

yes please, i want to one shot bounties again like when i could before they put in the state clamp years ago... not sure why they even implement it since it takes again progression, you never feel like you have truly become strong in the game... i want back the feelings when you return to older content like i did once i reach T4 for the first time, and wipe the floor with the flash in central city.

I gave you a +1 for putting the respect due to the work we all put in on that endeavor.

Disagree on the topic as we might....I'm not sure any thread will ever be higher on the list...especially in today's less active forum.

Good times indeed.

They are talking about 'private queue' which was added a few weeks back. It allows you enter any content with whatever amount of people are currently in group...something many (including myself) have asked to have for years.

It's a good step, but the one drawback is once you are in, you cannot re-open the queue...only invite missing members. Which is a bit short, although I understand the reasoning behind not allowing it. Further refinements may come...we shall see.

Then take off your gear or make a new character. I don't like being nerfed in stats that I have earned, why is your complaint more comforted than mine?

Stat clamp is the worst update to ever happen to this game. There's absolutely no fun in being nerfed in old content, like oh nobody people are 1 shotting in a T2 open world that nobody goes too...I'm devastated.

The only people that defend stat clamp are people who are selfish and don't care about new players. This games 14 years old and has like, almost 50 DLCs worth of raids and alerts, and you're telling me these people need to be nerfed?
This community constantly complains about people not having any skill points, but then make it as difficult as possible for us to get skill points.

"Just make a group!" You expect me to wait in LFG chat for 5 hours everytime I want to run a random T3 raid or some random T4 boss that nobody even remembers exists?

I have to disagree, it takes more time unclamped because we have to put ourselves on the worst case scenario which is the scenario where you glich the boss (like glitching Black Adam on "Rip on time" if i remember it rightly), or thinking it this way maybe you know you have to be careful not gliching the boss but the game (and any product in general) must be fool-proof (like even Goofy, the friend of Mickey Mouse, wouldn't have to worry about gliching and could focus only on playing).

You want to start the third world war don't you? Hhahaah

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Well, as I used to solo RIP and RIP-E when I was farming for the style pieces in there for a new account, I can tell you even if I glitched it once or twice (didn't but let's go with the fact it could glitch BA), I'd never have to worry about glitching it again...you know...cause I can learn from mistakes. So for the 20-30 runs it probably took to catch the 4 pieces that dropped in RIP and RIP-E, I can tell you cumulatively, it was WAY faster to solo unclamped than it was to try and get 3 other people (even 2 with private queue) and do those same 20-30 runs. Probably faster now that we have allies OP iconics and added more more MORE artifacts! Yeah...they hate us being over powered alright.

Nah, just teasing.

But we'd win anyway.....'MERICA!