Thinking about the Lanterns...Why not use the Multiverse. to get what most want?

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Antwoman, Sep 28, 2015.

  1. Ghostof91 New Player

    Well, to some extent I don't blame them, there are many comic book fans such as myself that plays this game for the sole purpose of its Lore and what do each and every Lantern Corp represents uniquely, thus why we are having a hard time getting a Lantern healer, and other in possibilities.
  2. MariaTenebre Committed Player

    Actually that is nonsense. The Star Sapphires are no more Female only then the Red Lanterns are villain only even though the majority of Red Lanterns in comic lore have been villainous. Also Geoff Johns stated that Men can join although most are not worthy. However by the same token most people are not worthy to be Lanterns at all in general and yet the power is open to everyone.

    Also it is not against the current status of Star Sapphires to have Men be among them. As Geoff Johns stated Men were never banned and Males have been introduced wielding Violet Light. Plus when it comes to our characters we get to make their storylines so we can easily say that our characters are worthy. Just as the fact that the majority of people are not worthy to wield Lantern powers at all in fact you have to be pretty exceptional to do so and yet the powers are open to everyone. By the same token most heroes are not worthy enough to be Red Lanterns and through out the history of the Corps it has been primarily villainous. Even in game Guy Gardner is the only hero in a sea of villains. However the power in and of itself is faction neutral and they have added more heroes to the Red Lanterns just as they have added Male Star Sapphires. The fact that DC and Geoff Johns have stated that Men are not barred from the Star Sapphires and the fact that Men have wielded Violet Light before shows that the power is gender neutral. The fact that the majority of Star Sapphires are Women means as little as the fact that the majority of Red Lanterns have been villainous. However just as there are Male Star Sapphires and the power is gender neutral so too are there Red Lantern heroes and the power is faction neutral

    DC and Geoff Johns have shown that the Star Sapphires are not Female only and have made Males wielding the power so they have no reason to not approve Males with this power and most likely they will not given that they have created Males wielding the power anymore then the fact that the majority of Red Lanterns have been villains stops them from approving Red Lantern heroes and including Rage as being faction neutral in spite of the fact that the majority wielding it have been villainous and in game Guy Gardner is literally the only heroic Red Lantern. So just as the fact that most heroes are not worthy of being Red Lanterns but some are so too are the fact that the majority of Men are not worthy of being Star Sapphires but some are. Which shows that the Red Lanterns are faction neutral just as the Star Sapphires are gender neutral

    Besides it violates lore to make the Star Sapphires Female only as it violates lore to make the Red Lanterns villain only in spite of the fact that their numbers lean those ways because the Star Sapphires has had Male members and the Red Lanterns has had heroic members. However the devs have violated lore in game for making the Amazon and Wonder Woman gear for both genders even though the Amazons and Wonder Women the champion of the Amazons are exclusively Feminine and need I mention American Cheetah.

    Making the Star Sapphires gender neutral will be keeping to the lore just as making the Red Lanterns faction neutral is keeping to the lore and making the Star Sapphires Female only and the Red Lanterns villain only violates the lore. Plus given the fact that DC and Geoff Johns has stated that some Men are worthy of being Star Sapphires and their inclusion of Males into the lore just like their gradual inclusion of heroes into Red Lanterns shows that they would most likely approve of Star Sapphire Males as they included them in the comics and they would violate their own stories by not including Star Sapphire Males. John Stewart and the other Star Sapphire Males are DC's way of showing that they give the green light on Star Sapphire Males and support their inclusion in the story. So it is your argument that is faulty.
  3. Antwoman Dedicated Player

    Well that swhy I said multiverse who is to say in a different verse that the Blue lanterns can only heal yellow or that they have their powers fullied unlocked meaning they can heal anyone. Also its not true fully that they need the Green lanterns for their rings to work. They can heal injuries and regrew limbs of people without a Green Lantern around.

    Edit: after reading I was in correct they do need the willpower to fully tape in. So i will say this use the multiverse and have it where the heroes have Saint Walker and the villains have an evil version of Saint Walker from a different verse and his Hope is powered by Fear or Rage.
  4. Xenia B Well-Known Player

    Oh look there it is. :rolleyes:

    Maria I know there is no semblance of logic or reason that will ever get to you. You believe you are completely correct and that the facts back you up 100%. So I'm not going to waste time rebuffing all the faulty things in that very long post.

    I will however say this one thing, even though it has been said before. Your entire argument is moot for the simple fact that you are blaming the wrong people for what you think is a wrong action. DC Comics has complete and utter final say on absolutely everything that has ever been placed into DCUO. This means that DC Comics believes that all representations of the Star Sapphires in DCUO fit within their view of that Corp which means even Geoff Johns himself has signed off on it. So DC's own actions don't even fall in line with your position.
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  5. Antwoman Dedicated Player


    Based off lore the Star Sapphires have Males with one being able to join as a full member that being John Steward and you are correct the creator did say its not a female only club. But what you haven't not mentions is why there haven't been really any males besides John Steward. Besides John the other 3-4 males forced the power meaning it was given but stolen, John was worthy of the ring because his wife who wore the ring before him died and he showed great love for her therefore being worthy of the ring, if I do recall. Worthy is the key word there, because in lore and DC is all about its lore no matter what the Star Sapphires have program its rings to seek Females first not males.

    The writer has not changed that fact yet? Therefore most males will be not chosen because the rings seek males first. And the Star Sapphires are big on being worthy of the power of love. Meaning in DCUO they choose who they deputizes and they would most likely choose females over males since that is their ways. Remember in John Steward case is wasn't the Star Sapphires that choose him it was the ring, there is a difference. And just because John is a full member and the creator said what he said doesn't mean the current writer or writers will write it that way as well. And they Haven't shown that more males will be joining as on now so it will be a hurry up and wait for that. That is is why the multiverse threoy of mine is your best bet to have Male and Female ones.

    I will say this you never give up on this though lol. I'm sure your argue it some more which is fine, but I'm pulling for Indigo.:D
  6. AverageJoe Dedicated Player

    No offense to anyone who has ideas about this subject on how to get the lanterns, but this has got to be the better of any ideas I've read so far. There is an endless multiverse out there and there could be a Blue lantern that is powered up by fear, loop hole. There could be an all Male version of Star Sapphires, boom loop hole. There could be a version of Agent Orange the shares thew power of greed ( I know don't make sense, but when you are basing a game off people able to fly, and is bullet proof logic in't too far out the window). You've posted many ideas that frankly have ways to improve the game, they need to hire you on ideas alone.:)

    This is to Antwoman I don't want like people being like thanks and turn out their ideas were pooh.
  7. Kazara New Player

    I thought all of us got our powers from exobytes? So really, shouldn't anyone be able to get these lantern powers? Yellow lantern exobyte comes across a civilian. BOOM. Yellow lantern who decides to use the power to fight crime. Star Sapphire exobyte hits a dude. BOOM. Male star sapphire. Blue lantern exobyte hits some evil chick. BOOM. Evil blue lantern. Isn't that how it was supposed to work? Or are our lantern characters actual official lanterns who had their rings choose them?
  8. Antwoman Dedicated Player

    No the Lanterns did not get their powers from exobytes. Lanterns they go their powers from being deputize from the lantern corps themselves well that is my understanding that is. I'm not sure on the Rage ring bearers. I will assume the sane for them as well.
  9. TITAN ephemeral Loyal Player

    You are dangerously close to having a sane thought...back away from it...slowly...MY GOD MAN...NEVER BLINK!!! It knows your FEAR!!!
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  10. Kazara New Player

    Do you have a source where someone says this? Because no one mentions it in the actual game.
  11. Antwoman Dedicated Player

    The Devs said it themselves. That's why we have Lanterns and why the Lantern powers I believe didn't come out earlier than what it did because of lore and stuff I think DC comics said as well that the Lanterns in game are deputies as well.
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  12. Antwoman Dedicated Player

    Also that will explain why we don't have the other rings as well because its not the exobytes going around with the rings but the Lanterns themselves also, remember if you where around then that the rings in the game had like a voice tell you welcome to the core and the reason of how you got your ring things like that as well.
  13. Kazara New Player

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  14. MariaTenebre Committed Player

    Actually my arguments are based on the lore and I have provided evidence from it.

    Also your statement is false as DC comics and Geoff Johns have shown themselves to be open to Male Star Sapphires and have included them in their comics and have stated that Men can join the Star Sapphires. I blame more then anything else the devs for being stupid. Besides DC recently has been very lenient on the devs doing what they want even if it violates lore. Such as making the Amazon and Wonder Woman gear for both genders even though the Amazons are exclusively Female unlike the Star Sapphires as is their champion, not only that but the fact that they made Cheetah an American even though she is British in the comics.

    In the comics DC and Geoff Johns have shown us that there are indeed Male Star Sapphires and that Men are not barred from joining anymore then heroes are barred from joining the mostly villainous Red Lanterns. So DC has stated in their lore that they are not all Female so they back me up. I mainly blame the devs for being stupid and DC being lenient because the devs have violated lore before and the DC lore states that Men can indeed be Star Sapphires even though they are majority Female just like heroes can be Red Lanterns even though they are majority villainous.
  15. MariaTenebre Committed Player

    Actually there have been other Males wielding Violet Light such as Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, Superman Prime etc. All were worthy of the rings even though they did not become a full fledged member like John Stewart per se.

    Also even if some of the Star Sapphires might be biased against Males some Males are worthy of the rings. Just as the Red Lanterns who are mostly villainous would usually be in favor of having rings go to people who are more willing to do shady villainous things for vengeance dosen't change the fact that the rings do pick out heroic peoples with intense rage as well. Even in game Guy Gardner is the only heroic Red Lantern in a sea of villains. Some Males are indeed worthy of being Star Sapphires just as some heroes are worthy of being Red Lanterns. The fact that they have added Males wielding Violet Light and there new direction of making John Stewart a full fledged member shows they are open to Men being Star Sapphires and will probably include more in the future just as they gradually added more heroes to the Red Lanterns. The fact is that the Star Sapphires are not Female only anymore then the Red Lanterns are villain only just because their numbers may lean towards Females and villains does not change the fact that the Star Sapphires are gender neutral and the Red Lanterns are faction neutral and it violates lore to make the Star Sapphires Female only and the Red Lanterns villain only and the comics have never depicted them as such.

    Also I will not give up because the lore is on my side and I think that the Star Sapphire power being gender neutral and faction neutral is the best option for a Lantern healer. Besides I have no interest in making an Indigo character although I wouldn't mind making a Blue Lantern but I prefer a Star Sapphire Male.
  16. Gwalir Loyal Player

    They kinda used to if you used one of the Deputization Decrees they gave out when the Light powerset was first introduced, as seen here: .

    However, it always seemed a gray area to me. What I think they should do is make it so we aren't technically Corps members, but instead are people who gained Light powers through exobytes, similar to the other powersets. Since they are not the actual rings themselves but instead Light-based exobyte powers, I feel that gives them some leeway as to why the old Light-powersets (light and Rage) don't behave exactly like they should, as well as why any new powerset doesn't as well.

    After all, we already have Rage characters who can freely take off their rings and change powersets without going into cardiac arrest like typical Red Lanterns., as well as Light who aren't strengthened by nearby Blue Lanterns.
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  17. Kazara New Player


    Man, now I really feel like playing a character who starts off with gadgets or something and then gets recruited at level 30 by the Green Lanterns.
  18. Celestial Demon Dedicated Player

    A few years back when Fight for the Light was released, when you picked up the dlc, you would be given a power token to swap to Light and a fully voiced greeting deputizing you as a full-fledged Lantern Corpsman. So Light players are technically part of the Corps, just not as powerful or [insert word for leadership or idol] as the big names and slightly lesser names (we're actually below the fodder lanterns of each corps I believe).

    However, why our rings aren't affected by differing spectrums (like Hope being super mega broken vs Fear, Greed, and Rage, while being the universe's most overcharged battery with Willpower and Love [I think].) I have no personal answer to it.
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  19. Antwoman Dedicated Player

    you'll think that would be the answer for all the rings is just deputizes.
  20. WilderMidnight Steadfast Player

    I know there are a lot of green lantern fans in game. Next to Superman and batman the GLC is DCs biggest superhero franchise. Stands to reason they'd get incorporated into the game.

    Personally I don't like Geoff Johns work on the GLC. Hate the rainbow colors, so cliche. I liked Green lantern best when it was just Kyle wielding the universes most powerful weapon. Made the character more unique. You'd think with thousands of people flying around wielding power rings the universe would be in better shape...

    anyhoo...i dont change my toons powers around. dont really care what powers they add to the game as long as the glc dont overtake everything else (i.e. i like to see variety).

    Carol Ferris for Legends would be a good way to get to play with violet powers without upsetting the lore.