The real reason why Prec needs a NERF

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Please stop explaining that you're op prec and might and everyone else just sucks, it's pathetic. SHOW IT!
You know, I posted a video in another thread about a guy beating solo elite in 3:34 with prec. Do it with a might IF YOU CAN, and I'll admit that prec is not op. Deal? Time for actions! Waiting for your vid.

lol…

Your claim: prec is op and needs to be nerfed
Me: Maybe you should work on your night loadout if you’re getting beat by prec
You: I don’t have issues beating prec. Here’s proof of a good might dps beatinf a good prec dps.
Me: so might can beat prec?
You: might needs art swapping to beat prec. You refreshing video
Me: prec dps was also art swapping in said video….


So a good might dps has no issues beating a good prec dps? If so why does prec need a nerf? You’re either having a hard time beating a prec dps and you’re asking for nerfs. Or might can beat prec in which case why do you want nerfs?


You also make this claim of a prec dps beating elite solo in 3:34. Your favorite little line. You claim prec is so easy. If it’s so easy why don’t you prove it and do it in 3:34? If it’s prec and not art swapping or him being rage which thrives on being able to berserk melee and rotate ally and everything to land within berserk than prove that it’s prec that’s cause it to be 3:34. If prec is SOOO easy than prove it and do it. You keep begging other to prove things for you without having any idea of how things actually work. You just see someone beat you and claim it has something to do with what they are using and nothing to do with you own lack of skills.


Additionally. When did I say I was so op? You mean when I said I can beat most players and I’m normally top dps? Must have missed the part when I also said I can only do that cause 70% of the dps in the game are just bad. Has nothing to do with me being op.

Blablabla...
Show me you can do solo elite in 3:34 as might, so prec is not op. With or without arstswap, up to you. Everything else is just blablabla....

This is why your argument is ignorant. I can not do it I 3:34 because 3:34 is an impressive time and the person who did it did everything he could all at once in order to achieve 3:34. It had nothing to do with him being prec. It had to do with him art swapping very effectively, using berserk/rage to a very high level, him knowing where each group of add was and how much he needed to do to kill and move quickly. Him having perfect positioning to be able to hit enemies as soon as he got around corners. Him activating his buffs before the solo and maxing his SC before going in. It is because said player is highly skilled.

But you’re so clueless that you see someone using prec and automatically assume it has to do because he is prec. You are the one saying prec is so broken and easy. If it’s so easy to do as prec and you believe it has to do with him being prec specifically than you do it I’m 3:34 with literally anything you want. Prec, art swapping. Anything. Prove that it’s due to prec and/or swapping. But you won’t cause you can’t. By the way you carry yourself and want to point fingers because you feel the only reason you get beat is cause they are using things you don’t understand.

That math is incorrect. Precision accounts for a 66.66% total weapon damage and weapon dps accounts for 33.33% weapon damage. Buffing both by 20% is only buffing total weapon damage by 20%. It's not additive. Also, might and prec are balanced with the troll buff included. So if anything, prec is at a disadvantage without a troll.

Blablabla again.. . You failed to prove prec is not op. Thank you.

You’ve failed to prove prec is OP

Precision has two disadvantages one being without a troll and one being without a tank. Precision does not have empowered channeling mod it gets interrupted which is just like dying if there is no tank. Might base however has empowered channeling which means it doesn't get interrupted like Precision does. so might base Powers with empowered channeling get to use a lot more art swaping without being interrupted. so let's call that a third disadvantage that Precision has which means might base in the right hands is the king playstyle because of empowered channeling with art swaping

How many times do prec have to get nerfed before might players are satisfied? It seems like no matter what they do the good players are always going to find a way to maximize it's damage.

Yup. One of the recent times where I actually felt like taking the time to list all the ways might has caught up to and passed prec, channeled and long cast powers providing exponentially more time and opportunity to swap was near the top of that list. Now, me personally, I have distract (detaunt and immunity shield) in all my loadouts so getting interrupted is much less of an issue. Regardless, swapping while flurry-shotting requires extremely quick and precise timing and even then it still slows the pace. I don't do much swapping but when I do I sometimes do it so fast it doesn't register. Too many times my orbital has come off cooldown and I go to swap DKS only to find it had been in there the entire past four minutes. fml.

For reeeaaaals. Ever since the JLD Survival Mode it's been constant. If I didn't know any better I'd swear "Precnerf Day" was an annual holiday w/ iCal notifications and everything.

Not even good players. And THAT is the real reason for the widespread perception that prec is overpowered vs might. ANYBODY with a web browser to watch some YouTube videos and a few hours to practice the muscle memory aspect can prec DPS and produce a damage output between 85%-95% of their maximum damage potential. There is truly very little margin for error as long as you have good finger dexterity.

Conversely, might dpsing not only has a huge margin for error, it also requires a much larger investment (time included) in artifacts. By my estimation (and I pay close and frequent attention to this) the vast majority of endgame might DPS's are performing at only 65%-70% or less of their powers maximum damage potential.

Top might dps > top pre dps
Average might dps < average prec dps

I'm not even a prec player, but I'm not a fan of abunch if nerfs unless something is broken. Prec is way more balanced than what it used to be. It just certain power sets really excell with prec.

When it comes to art swaping for prec frame per sec will drop off big-time if ur effects quality and effects fade are above 60%. also many top swap players take everything out of the inventory and only use what's needed to swap with. that way they don't experience latency issues also make sure that you're using an ethernet cable and that your controller is wired and ur TV is set to game mode. Once you found out that trick swaping arts is insanely Op and you will cheese everything especially Elite content

I just can’t understand how the devs and some of the community can really not accept that presión players with bow combo is not op and that might players will never be close to the damage that precision puts out. Once again I can give yet another example I have encountered playing with another precision player, player had 420cr, trans, strat and scrap of the soul arts all at 160 vs my 425cr, trans 200, strat 180 and quislet are 180 ( munitions) get out dps by 25mil by the second boss. Gotten so upset left shut down the game (ridiculous). There is clearly an issue with the damage pars between precision and might base. This is the stuff that literally takes the interest of playing DCUO. Hope that the devs can take the time to look over it again and can either need or upgrade might to close the huge gap.

That story doesn't prove anything. You can't expect to do more damage than someone else, just because you have a little bit higher CR and arts. When your arts are at 180, that's almost the same as 160, because at 180 you only get a 1-2% stat boost, no additional mechanics. What raid was it - one of the last 3 episodes, or older, clamped ones, where both your CRs were capped at the same level? Was there a troll in the group, using weapon buff and maybe Cog artifact, instead of Tetra, or Claw? Do you have more SP than that Prec player? Was he/she using Scrap as 3rd artifact (who does that?), or was he/she swapping arts and you only saw Scrap when you inspected them once? Were you both the same powerset? And finally - maybe that player was simply better than you, or was using better loadout/rotation for the situation and swapping weapons, or armories between adds and bosses? Maybe he/she was positioning themselves better, or getting to the adds before you?

There are tons of bad DPS, both Might and Prec, who blame game imbalance for their shortcomings. I outDPS players with 200 arts and CR430 quite often, on my Might alts with 80-120 arts and 200-300 SP. My main is Mental Might and is rarely outDPSed - usually by better players, especially if they swap arts (which I can't do on PS4) , or if troll buffs Prec, or if I mess something up.

If you want your complaints to be taken seriously by the devs, you should provide a lot more info, than "Someone done bigger number than me, whaaa, nerf please!" Munitions Might DPS can easily compete with most Precision builds and requires fairly little skill, so if you're finding that you're usually way behind - that's something you're doing wrong, and/or you're playing with way better players, who swap a bunch of arts.

To me this just indicates that you’re not that good. Look sorry to be blunt but this is just the simple truth.

200 trans vs 160 trans a a 2% less penalty plus a fee extra stats.
180 strat vs 160 start is basically the same thing since these only give percent stats and the biggest buff to strat is the 200 bonus
The biggest difference is a 180 quislet vs a 160 scrap. In this instance you should have the edge. However if you don’t have a good loadout or rotation than all the extra stats and shiny bells and whistles are meaningless.


Instead of blaming a prec player for beating you maybe try looking to see what you’re doing wrong.

What’s your loadout?
What’s your rotation?
What raid is this?
How did you position yourself?
Do you even know your base dps? Do you know how to ACCURATELY get your actual base dps?

People need to stop blaming others and start looking at what they themselves are doing. Plus rage quitting because your getting out dpsed says more about you than anything else.

Lol this is what I am talking about it’s always that players are bad and not that it could be that precision is just simply better. I m willing to beat that if I go precision and play against the same player at the same dungeon, raid etc without any doubt I’ll be the better player. It really is that simple, oh well it is what it is, nothing else s ever going to change and n this topic. Time to go on another break!!!!!

Again….
What is your set up? Maybe there are changes you can make to improve your overall damage.

I’ll keep it simple. What is your average 30s parser dps on 5 targets and 1 target? Let’s start from there.

Every top dps on dc has been prec since SM season 2. And there's a reason for that. Versatility, mobility, safety and high damage output in any given situation. If there's hard content and you're a good player, you go prec because staying might will hinder your movement and consequently, your damage. Now that the Eye of Gemini has been nerfed, precision will stay better until they release an op powerset ally or art.

The single target damage is slightly in favour of might powers, but the fact that you get interrupted in content so much evens it out. Prec aoe is miles clear of any might aoe. This has been the case for years.

To sum it all up; prec is op because of the movement, the ability to run a loadout for any circumstance without losing much damage, and the AOE damage it provides with the shuriken storm weapon mastery combo (it's overpowered) and it barely requires any swapping- or arts for that matter.

Just lol.