The Beauty of Clamped Content

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Shark Dental, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    OK, so let's start off by saying this isn't a thread for the eternal struggle between good and evil, clamped or unclamped content. It's just to point out one of the coincidental benefits of the current clamped group content.

    Here goes.

    Anyone else notice that when running clamped, several powers that suck dps-wise in end game, are actually really good now? I'm surprised to see the numbers that quantum and light put out in clamped instances, lol. Having a lot of fun running some lower alts through it for this reason.

    Also, props to the devs for giving us these events that drop attunable gear. That gear is the greatest invention since Time Capsules. And unlike them (well, I guess we like TCs too, just not the drop rates), we actually love this gear so much. It makes leveling alts much less painful when you hit those gray areas where content doesn't pop.
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  2. The Jelly Bean Dedicated Player

    Riddle me this, think of all the useless powers now that increase stats and supercharges that increase crit levels. All of those are now dope.

    Oh and try it with electric dpsing, I'll bet you won't get first place in there at all.

    Time capsules just suck

    Unattuned gear has been out since beginning of t6, so like 2 years now.

    And clamping stuff doesn't make people better. Already kicked several trolls who couldn't pot.
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  3. light FX Steadfast Player

    Clamping everyone is not the fix for imbalance. I know u are not saying that OP. But nature isnt better cause everyone else is clamped. And if people feel it is well facts over feelings ;) And honestly i havent noticed it. I just ran the alert on my nature and was dpsing and its still pretty bad. Also nature compared to people pulse beaming and dp full auto doesnt mean the power is somehow better :p
  4. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    Yeah, I haven't run with electricity or nature (other than healing) in clamped content. So I can't say about them. But light and quantum are pretty good. Atomic is still OK, nothing out of this world. Celestial is really good too.

    @Mr. The Jelly Bean
    When I refer to unattuned gear, I mean gear that consistently gives you an upgrade. Maybe I didn't express myself well. The last two events have had it, and Olympus content onward. It's great for alts when you're stuck right between tiers because it attunes to your level, fills in any missing gear spots, and is huge if the ques aren't popping (pretty common except on wednesday's or the weekend lately.
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  5. Winter Sabel Dedicated Player

    Come on... He is talking about the scaling gear. You know better than that.
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  6. Jacob Dragonhunter Steadfast Player

    *Some powers that really suck are now good*


    Oh please, stop with that.


    The only reason they seem good is because the clamp severely limits their full potential. A full potential Gadgets will destroy a full potential electricity.


    Trying to say that clamping makes powers good is putting a bandage on a open wound, it'll only heal some fraction of the damage done.
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    The only thing I appreciate about the clamping is that the content can't be stomped right through, meaning it's entertaining and all those that play the Starro event can enjoy it to their hearts content.

    The Starro Event brings something to light that DC currently lacks, and that is having everyone enjoying the content all at once.


    With the Higher CR folks destroying the older tier stuff, sure you can say you enjoy it; but if your not one of the higher cr folks that are soloing the content you aren't playing it. It's that simple.
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  7. The Jelly Bean Dedicated Player

    Op said attunable gear, not the unattuned scaling gear drops.
  8. FoolsFire Devoted Player

    Anyone else find it interesting that the gear will only let you select styles you have skill points in? Not that I disagree. Just find it an interesting change.
  9. Winter Sabel Dedicated Player

    You knew what he was saying. I know you're smarter than that.
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  10. AbBaNdOn_IGN Committed Player

    I see lots of players that stand out from the crowd when im running events. They have the knowledge/experience to squeeze the most out of thier toons, like with mods in gear to get more crits, or boosted mainframe mods, or having bonus damage feats for specific content.

    Then there is also skill. For example Rage or Light. I saw a Rage guy just annihilate stuff faster and better than I ever will. I tried to ask them advice and stuff but only got short answer. But the said they use outrage, echain, revenge spin?. Revenge seams like crappy damage to me but he clipped that stuff together super fast and very consistantly. I dont think his insane damage came from LO tho.

    Likewise I went head to head versus another Light toon the other day and he was going all out. My LO is pretty slow, Light Blast into Boxing into Impact back into LB. Its the easier, smoothest LO for me. The other dude was using light blast, mgun, ram, chompers, others maybe. He just cycled through all that crap at insane speed. It looked like we both did great damage but he was getting to ads faster than me. i forgot to look at final score so he may have smoked me.

    I dont mod or use boosted mainframe mods or try very hard to clip stuff together very hard. Im a mediocre/casual player. You can really see a difference when you run into people who go all out.

    Conversely I run into people all the time who are dps and have full power bars just beating on stuff with weapons, or support roles who make zero effort to do thier job. They make any power look like crap lol.

    So anyways I disagree. The difference you see in a powers performance isnt because of event, instead its due to running into top tier players who have knowledge and skill. Atleast thats what I see.
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  11. KHALONofOGUN 10000 Post Club

    But you knew exactly what he meant...and instead of correcting him you tried to invalidate his statement...which is pretty petty.
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  12. Crimson Mayhem Loyal Player

    OP said something positive about clamping though which means we need to nitpick everything he says to prove that he's utterly incompetent and despisable!
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  13. Perdition Committed Player

    if they clamp us after the revamp then all the work they put into it was all for nothing. In clamped stuff your sp/cr dont mean anything. I hate the clamping from the bottom of my heart. But thats just my opinion.
  14. warpaxio Well-Known Player


    this
  15. Tsigalko Well-Known Player

    well this is just NOT true. at least from my experience, who ran these instances daily with 9 toons with different powers. if anything, it has became clearer that some powers are just a lot better and some powers just a lot worse, dps wise. if a low dps tier powers perform well, it is probably because the other dps doesnt use AM , or someone spamming full auto, or some superman role-players spamming heat vision (all of these "surprisingly" happen very often).

    on another note, its funny how many ppl complain how their stats being clamped but most of them dont have any problem with the last anti monitor event, stats-wise. its exactly, i mean EXACTLY, the same thing with different coating. all players have the exact same stats (whether they're clamped or boosted).
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  16. Mazahs Loyal Player

    Not commenting on clamping Good /Bad

    On the powers performing better the answer is NO they aren't
    What you are running into is GOOD DPS. I can and most of the time do, keep up and or beat most of what people consider OP powers with my Light toon. I'd consider myself an above average DPS, but there are monsters out there that unless you run into 3MT /3EMP or Biggun players they will obliterate them.

    Brice Allen with Light
    Fatal Star with Celestial

    These are 2 players playing what most people consider mid tier powers that squeeze every drop out of them.
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  17. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    Thanks for the replies everyone. I see what you're saying and I guess it could be actually that I've been placed in most instances with a lot of sub-par dps. When I'm talking about the way I see powers perform it's because I'm consistently at the top with most powers (not trying to brag, it actually kind of surprises me). Normally, with my fire toon, I'd be at about 60% of the top (6 mil vs. 10 mil), but in clamped content I'm either top of the board or at like 90% even in the raid. So I thought that maybe the stats evened out the playing field more for some reason.
    Same thing with quantum, though I guess that probably has to do with the cap not affecting as much. But I understand what you guys are saying, and it could be just the group makeup or my (cringe) perception...
  18. Gimpy Loyal Player



    You should go back and re-read some of the threads.

    I loathe clamped content, I loathed the anti-monitor event and I loathe this starro event.

    Both events have that damned "treat you like a puppet" pile of crap in them where even if another player breaks you out you're immediately placed right back into it.

    I'm through playing on a regular basis until I see Stats Revamp actually happen and will then choose to stay or leave.

    My experience from the past 5 years tells me I will be leaving for good once it makes it to live servers.
  19. bull425 Well-Known Player

    They should clamp everything when you are a high CR character to the top end of the specific Tier. So let's say for example, you run T4 content, you should be clamped at the high end of the Tier. By doing this, they could then open up marks for more than the 100 they are capped at now. Otherwise high CR's roll through the content for gear and feats, and that's it, no marks. Open it up.
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  20. The Jelly Bean Dedicated Player

    I run with many weak powers and I still beat all the other people in damage in the alert, and the raid. In the 4 player, I have beaten earth players with my electric dps, how sad! I go in there as earth and made cool whip out of everyone. I go in as quantum and top the boards because ik how to work it to its max with a shield and quantum tunneling. Hell, I even made a gadgets toon and idk what I'm doing, guess what, I'm still top dps.

    Each power you must own to get the damage from it. Then there is skill level involved like powers, rotations, weapon, hitting first, etc. so once more, the powers are not aligned in clamped instances, it's players skill of power that puts you on top of board. But it's still sad that my electric beats top powers in stuff.

    The only challenge is when there is another competent dps in the group which I rarely find.