Survival Mods is a waste

Bragging rights is the point.

What exactly is the problem here? Nobody needs to be helping "lowbies and such." The game is fairly easy to figure out for anyone who chooses to do so. People can still answer questions or give other legitimate help (like advice) while in survival mode.

I agree and disagree with OP. I do think the rewards should be useful and its a major distraction for people with low SP but its very fun to tank. Haven't had a tanking challenge since Origin Crisis first came out. I have a 10 month old so I cant just rock out for hours uninterrupted like it requires and I hope that time required for completion is reserved only for SM so the gubment dont come take my babies.

Then don't run it.

This is such a flame thread. It does not hurt you. That's what's wrong with the world. People just go out of their way to hate on things that do not even affect them. The fact that it doesn't give any rewards needed for progressions means that you can totally ignore it and not have to deal with it whatsoever.

so you wiped out at round one eh? let me give you a hug

Ummm...for fun....LOL isn't that what a game is for ...

Ur right op....survival mods is a waste.we got VI mods already.

Notice that after a few posts, the OP disappeared? This was meant to stir up emotions and dissent. Best to just ignore it and leave it be from here on.

It is the only piece of content in this game that gives people a real challenge. It is the only piece of content that utilizes 2-2-2-2, and it is the only piece of content that actually requires indepth teamwork and strategy, and is the only content that cannot be completed by stacking dps.

I don't like SM personally since it takes way too much time and offers zero reward, but like it for what it gives others whichis something to do. As a father with a wife and kids, I can't dedicate hours in front of the tv in one instance that can't be walked away from at a moments notice, so I don't run it. But I am happy that it gives others another option for something to run. Even though my wife used to play the game, she refuses to take the controller from me and play for me during a bathroom break in SM, so there went that option, lol.

My reasons for loving survival mode.

First off, it gives a challenge that exists no where else in the game, no matter what skill level you are at. Even Select Few who beat round 10 wouldn't go as far to say that it wasn't a challenge to do so. Future SM will have no limit, so no matter what level your skill is at, it will be a place to find that challenge you crave.

Second, it was something that could push you to your limit. If you are never pushed or challenged you will never improve your skill. Tanking, I haven't had a challenge since running wave/nexus/a&b sub cr 94, and now at 105^ it is back. My loadout has essentially been the same since I managed to get through wave/nexus/a&b at that CR, but after SM I've gone a different route which seems to be working even better for me. Had I not been challenged again, I would not have discovered this new way to tank.

Third, it gives us something to do in the downtime. Yes we have pvp(for those who enjoy it), feats, styles, base items, etc we can farm, but it only keeps you entertained for so long. SM gives us something else we can do in between DLCs to keep us interested in the game. The devs have stated that DLCs are designed to last 2 months with no replay badges, therefore we have a month to two months of nothing but feats and grinding. It is nice to have something else to jump into and still have that fun of a new Raid when it first drops.

Last, well bragging rights. It's nothing big, and I generally don't participate in the bragging, but it is something. Future versions are expected to have in-game leadership boards to compare yourself or league vs other people and leagues. It may spur a little of the elitism stigma in the game, but it will still give us a fun competition as currently there is very little league to league interactions in the PVE world.

All in all, it is a great addition to the game that is loved by many. I am honestly glad they gave us absolutely no progression ability with it, as that would somewhat defeat the purpose of it. It is fun to play, and will be more so in the future with the proposed changes. There is no point in posts like this as it is just a post to complain about something in the game you are not good at. All of our money we put into this game goes towards things we may not personally play, whether it be dailies, solos, duos, alerts, raids, seasonals, PVP, SM, or whatever else they plan to add, but someone is enjoying those things and that is what any game is about.

You're also wrong that there is no reward playing Survival Mode. You do get a Survival Mode exclusive Chest Style piece for every 2 rounds. It does nothing but give you a specific style that not everyone can easily get. Sure it does nothing but for bragging rights but at this stage that's what everyone actually wants, bragging rights. What is left to progress to anyways? Drinking from an empty glass gives you nothing at all it actually just makes you look stupid and Survival Mode is not that.

First off if you're a noob all you have to do is shout and ask a question, the game at that point is so easy (specially if you've played other MMOs in the past) that I can't believe people still ask for help. Plus a toon with a full tier 6 gear helping someone who's at level 10 only makes things worst for many people in the end, since having someone with full T6 gear will make things too easy to a point that when they get to the higher tier stage they don't really know how to play certain roles or any roles for that matter.

This game needs more of a challenge and PvE competition! Bragging rights are one thing, but there are times - especially after the weekend - when players are locked out of everything and want something to do. Currently every raid in the game with a good group can be run back-to-back in under 3 hours.

That being said, I do not think this iteration of SM showcased its true potential. What pushed many skilled players away was the time commitment - my league and myself included. Many times I'd want to run, but as a mother and player with a full-time job, it just wasn't viable to spend 3+ hours in a run with no more than a 10 minute break every so often. Giving players checkpoints so they can start at a later round (like Fractals in GW2) would make SM the perfect addition to the game in my opinion.

Think the pool table is the only other SM only base item

To be honest to be successful in Survival Mode it demands a good teamwork and a total commitment into the run. So a half-*** attempt will not get any team far, heck they might not even make it to the 2nd round. Giving players a checkpoint wont really work unless it's a solo mission because if it's not then the same team will have to get together once more and pick up where they left off, and that also requires commitment. I think giving us a longer break between rounds would greatly improve Survival Mode experience.

BTW Kudos to the dev team not putting a vending machine in there forcing us to purchase Repair Bots at the marketplace. Smart move LOL

I tried SM once for the heck of it. Gotta admit, it was pretty awesome. Keeping everyone alive and hearing so many compliments on the beastliness of my healz is never a bad thing. But man, was it freaking time consuming. Would've been way better if it just didnt't take so long.. after a while people started running out of stuff to talk about and the conversation started getting weird lol... pugging SM.

Its really no more or less a waste of time then playing the game in the first place. Millions of games in the world sell w/ no rewards, just on fun factor. SM is just something new & fresh for ppl to spend time in when they are bored or done w/ everything else. I'm glad the Dev's have added SM...I just wish they would add a little something more to its strategic design to up the fun factor. As mentioned previously by Greenman_X...I would also love if they added exobits as drop rewards & a few little feats for hitting milestones. I'd run SM way more if it could be an alternate to farming exobits.

Sometimes you can just do things because its a fun thing to do.