I think it's more of a comparison. No....clamped content won't be as easy as when we were 100+ CR just by getting as sweaty as you can....but it isn't near 'challenging' either. I mean I'm not sure USR at 3-4 min is ANY real margin slower or more challenging than it was pre clamp...IF you are utilizing all the above ^^^^ stuff, and in MOST cases where an omni group is full of endgame 'clamped down' players, many mechanics are still being ignored and burn is the only real concern. Someone who is adamantly 'pro' clamp should not be blind to the fact that full on sweaty cheese eating your way through endgame or 'hard' clamped raids is not completely different than running 'unclamped'. Different...sure. But not really all that different in the right groups. Example: Ran SFFE a few nights ago on a healer alt. I think we were 5 min in and had just finished 2nd boss when I was told to go DPS because my 1 SC wasn't producing enough greens, along with the tank's, and another guy switched to heal. Mind you....5 min in, 2 bosses down and only 2 deaths from people who got hit by the charge. Yep....it was a real struggle, good thing he switched and upped the greens. I didn't ask...but I wonder if any of those guys were 'pro' clamp?