Test Discussion Solar Amplifier Bug

Can u put fire burst and frost blast in the empowered channeling they need it bad

4TH ARTIFACT SLOT.. NOW IS THE TIME.. CALL IT A DAY!

I constantly get interrupted by Grail in the new solo. Drives me crazy when the mod should really be stopping this happening

Probably not the right thread for this but I 100% agree. Frost blast is a nightmare and could be a usable power if it was affected by empowered channeling. It has such a long animation and then to get interrupted by the slightest of things wastes all that time and damage, and lets face it Ice needs as much help as it can get .

Anyone know the reason why HV mobility was removed? Like did it break the game just because it allowed you to walk?

A lot of folks actually asked for it to be removed because it made it impossible to block or jump cancel in many cases. Also, at the time I think the Devs said it was never intended.

Mobile Channels are absolutely awesome. Mobile channels that you can't cancel.... not so much.

How was it impossible? They (devs) could just shut off the animation if you want to block and if you don't want to block then have the freedom of walking around with it. It might not have been intended but a gem was presented and the devs removed it simply because it wasn't intended. I would rather have that option of mobility than this supposed bug but of course with the freedom to block.

I'm shrugging. I don't see the code, so I can't say if or how it could have been fixed. Fire's Absorb Heat suffers from the same bug to this day-- sometimes you can cancel it, sometimes you can't. Not being able to cancel HV severely limited its usefulness. So since this behavior wasn't intended to begin with, the simplest solution was to remove the mobility.

If its a move in the Mod and she lunges you and it interrupts you, report it. Otherwise any other CC may still interrupt you.

Will do. thanks

FYSA it's just the fact she grounds us constantly (I believe her basic attacks do). If you turn movement mode off when you start the fight, she'll never interrupt your channels (except maybe if you let her spawn a red pool). Empowered Channeling stops both PvP mechanics and CC. I'm not sure why some people keep saying it doesn't stop CC when it clearly states it prevents "standard control effects." Grounding should also be prevented, really, but the workaround is simple, though annoying.

I will try it out and see what happens. thanks

Because it doesn't stop CC, it's broken, and has been broken for a long time. You mention an example of it's brokenness in your own statement. Anything other than a minor nudge from trash mobs will still interrupt you with EC.

That's not a technical CC though, that's an Unreal physics effect cancelling it by causing us to move while casting a power that doesn't allow movement while casting. If we get those kinds of nudges while casting Channel Hate or Absorb Heat, though, the cast is not interrupted no matter how aggressive the physics applied is. I agree that Empowered Channeling should protect against that kind of derpy stuff, it's just an important distinction so the devs can see exactly what's going on.

I think there may be more going on here...

I was just helping a league mate out with the Damage Control alert and first room Dawnbrfeaker releases some constructs which you need to kill. Well both my HV and Avalanche were being constantly interrupted, could barely get a shot out.

We had the same problem probably 6 months ago and it was a bug in the Solar Amp Empowered Channelling and not with the white mod, so it was fixed. I wonder with all the tinkering around whether its stirred up a problem again.

I will write a polite post and let them know there may be an issue.

Yeh better safe than sorry.

You forgot "in my opinion"

Anything to share yet? The fact you said its still being discussed leads me to cautious optimism OR still Moving forward with the nerf in spite of how this looks?

Are you able to put the current version on test so we can all do testing? Since it's non-split we have to take the average of 3 target and 8-target performance and I've only found 1-2 powers where a Solar Amp AoE option didn't already outright lose at average performance but I wouldn't mind being able to recheck everything. This was before even factoring its drawbacks and in-content weaknesses (eg an interuptible burst at the end of a long channel with a relatively short range on its actual AoE) and it loses in essentially every case to short range builds as well. That's also in addition to the % by which the artifact is contributing to overall DPS relative to other artifacts that we were able to look at, (ie. How even in good builds with it, it isn't doing as much as Strat is).

You guys aren't "making a single target artifact really good at multi target damage" here, as this isn't a new artifact. It's altering an artifact people already bought in the form in which you originally made it after making a single target artifact have explicit AoE viability. It's changing something currently useful in multiple situations to be almost useless outside of ST after it was bought and paid for. If this was a brand new artifact, no one would take issue. This isn't pre-release testing.