The whole reason the AM was started was because trollers was though of only as a battery and that will return with this revamp. Players will find that the higher cost of powers will do more damage and so the troller should give me more power so I can use it more offten. To me this revamp is not going to help the troller any. This revamp the trollers we become nothing more than just a battery that gets screamed at for giving enough power. Just like the days before WM and AM day. That is just it. You can take any power you choose and do good damage with it. What kind of skill dose take. All that is doing is making the less skilled players think they are skilled because the damage different between a skilled and unskilled player will be so small.
Jackster can and will say whatever is convenient and/or good for his business. Fact of the matter is - when he was asked to present the data behind all of his claims, he chose to ignore the requests. Also, when WM and AM were introduced, A sizeable portion of the population left, that is by itself the only statement that is factual. From here on everything else is an assumption - you say it was because of a sudden change, I say it's because said change had a negative impact. Either way, we're both left with a decline you (And by default, Jackster..) left unaccounted for in a statement claiming the game grew. Grew in relation to what? it's state prior to AM/WM, or in relation to it's state after many people left due to said systems being implemented? Either way no factual data was presented - certainly not in relation to these factors. "Removing the AM's from the game is a bad move - Short term." That is the extent of what you can objectively claim, please get that in your head. Infact, any massive change to an established game is a bad move on the short term, because people hate change, we're all creatures of habit.
Black trust me when I agree with most of what you are saying pretty spot on with the balancing thing in the past the devs didnt understand that players made balancing work despite what testing numbers said we made everything work well from W.Dervish With Earth to p.Dodge with nature to speed it up we made everything work well. They indeed took it away cause not everyone could do it and that was when the mistakes started instead of urging players to get better they lowered the goal so everyone could dunk, can't clip thats cool we got you covered 90% of cliping will be removed. A game should never force its players to be equal thats not how mmos work. But just give stats revamp a chance roles are getting love as well on test and you will once again see players who take time to learn their powers excell again.
Just to clarify, AMs were started because the "intent" was for players who have no idea of a loadout to have a temporary template for them untill they learn the game, and also for peole who have a physical disability that refrain them from clipping to do damage. It had nothing to do trollers. The annoucment of AMs, and the livestream which was said from spytle words, is my source.
To give you and others more Origin stories. WM idea, came after a FNL when Mepps and Spytle was watching a 4s, maybe 5s, tourney and literally the whole 15mins there was only 1 kill. Not only was wm a cool idea to mix Weps together, it also was for people who had extra sp something to spend and speed up fights in arenas for that purpose. Ams, not only was it suppose to counteract what WM became, but also came after a PVE challenge FNL when mepps and spytle was talking to one of the leaders of the league and the guy was telling them how he had a disability and describe how he played having to use his chin to hold the controller. All sources from livestreams FNLs.
I have always enjoyed AM mechanics but always thought the bonus damage was ridiculous. I like the way the game is going in the revamp from the perspective that they're trying to balance out all game play Styles if they could do that and still include am type mechanics like power interactions, mobile focused attack etcetera etcetera I think that would be great too.
I want it gone completely, it has destroyed every competitive way to do damage, I would rather keep wm and expand on it.
How can anyone think the reason AMs were added into the game was because of 1 person who had a disability? Not to be rude but cmon. I know what spytle said but there are other reasons it was added in. 1 of them was the power issue with trolls. Another was people complaining about being sick of WM and wanting to use their powers again. And to counter WM. The discussions about this stuff was all over the forums at the time with devs responding to it. The threads are still there. I saw em with my own eyes and posted in some of them. Plus very rarely is something like that done because of 1 person. Especially when it changes the entire combat system and affects everyone. Again not trying to be rude, but i think its kinda silly to think AMs got added because of 1 guy holding a controller with his chin. Its the same for WM. There were multiple reasons it was added. People wanted to use 2 weapons at once, wanted a weapon in each hand and 1 of the big reasons was people on these forums complaining they couldnt clip. There were so many threads about that. Now what people initially wanted with using 2 weapons and all that never happened, but it was brought up in some of the very 1st discussions about the idea. Also the power issue was another reason. There were many discussions about trollers being only batteries and 3 troll runs and how people greatly disliked that.
Because I stated the multiple reasons in different posts here already. I already stated What ams was for and wm was for. What you replied to was moreso of its origin. So no, i did not state/think that Ams existed because of 1 person.
AM did not kill the game. Removing jump cancel and clipping that killed player skill level the most. Power balances with broken Tunso testing killed it. Not expanding the AM killed it. IMO atomic was the move in the right direction because it had 2 very different AMs. Before AM people spammed WM hand blasters. Before WM people where spamming snap trap into fan. For as long as I can remember the top dps was always limited to a few power sets and to a few rotations. This goes back to before AM and even WM.
Can't wait to see what new cookie cutter loadouts everyone will be using after the revamp goes live next year.
looooooooool you are all sereous or what when you say removing wm am and bring back power they go to destroy trolls and dps? you have brain or what? trolls go to strangle give power? dps strangle to do dmg? omg mepps just stop here that ***** its going so long now and you even now with the game dead you dont understant that ppl is idiots and that ppl is how have destry the game. befor all this ***** you need to have troll to kepp power up that tha main roll of the troll if the troll cant do that that means is not good and he need to learn the game and if he cant just qwiet and dont cry like a little girl or just stay and lean the game its so easy and semple. if dps cant do dmg with jump cancel they need practice so go play practice and dont cry. when t5 going out on this days we do 3 months to end paradox and we do it again again every day to be beter and be able to end it when t6 going out we end the elite raid in 2 hours thats destry the game. stop coming here and cry couse you dont whont to spent time and learn the game if you dont want dont play easy and semple.