So I just hit Cr17..

old system with symbols and marks, end game rewards required end game content, makes sense.

new system with marks of victory, style only vendor, rare style vendor, any previous vendors who's content you missed, generator upkeep, all require end of game, and become impossible to gain in available content if you allow your cr to get too high by equipping gear earned before finishing your purchases.

Unfortunately I forgot ... I still adapting to the new system. Still used to the old where I had to put mods to climb the CR. Now I am taking care with other toons!
Also because I want to be able to get points for my league! And I can not afford not to do things ...
I just know what I did before with MAX now I'm having to do with the HEMAN and the TH4N0S ...
And soon with more to be able to have to do ...

How is this different from the beginning of any other tier?

His numbers explicitly state "at release." T6 did not have 7 raids on release; actually, it had no raids.

It's about the same amount of marks being awarded at the beginning of this tier relative to T5 or T6.

I understand this because I've already done this. When T5 was nearing its end I made the mistake of not using my Marks of Reality to buy the rare styles I still needed. I was frustrated at first thinking about how much Amazon Fury pt 1 content I would need to run to afford the rare styles, but then I realized that the rare style vendor is for players who have nothing else to spend marks on. It's not meant to be used concurrently while buying relevant gear and it's silly for players to think it should work that way. If you need rare styles or old gear for feats then you'll just have to wait til you've exhausted this dlc's gear before using marks for feats.

Simple!
Previously I could go on playing the previous content and having gains!
Now what I played for two hours does not serve anything for me!
And I'LL HAVE ONLY these few things for 3 months!
A solo two duos an alert and a once a week two raids!
This for 3 months!

Oh ok, so I have to run the new content, lock myself out of everything else, and then work harder than ever before just for styles, when I can just get them now that I have the majority of the content available, lol really dude at this point you are not even making sense, the rare style vendor is meant to be used all the time, as it's only styles, styles which are rare and barely drop at all, saying you aren't supposed to use that until you have all you need from the current content is just....you know I have no word for it that wont offend you. Really dude there is no reason to make things harder on anyone, specially players who've done the content and still can't finish some styles, it just makes no sense.

has anyone told him before the new marks only worked on new gear, while everything else converted to the old marks, because that's why being able to run old content mattered before, even if we had a different mark.

The old marks served me for the rest of the game!
And only the new for new gear!
I even suggested that it should have two marks, but only set the 100 marks amount to be both!
It would be much better! And we would not have so many unhappy people!
But I see this is the only game where you do not think of happiness of the players / customers ...

No you couldn't. When you were T6 you only got Marks of Triumph from T5 content. MoT couldn't help you progress your character in any way.

Don't worry about offending me, it's find dude. I've been respectful this entire thread.

When I say the rare style vendor is meant for end game players with nothing else to spend marks on, I'm not saying that because it's what I believe. Way back when the rare style was first introduced that's exactly what the devs said was the intention of the rare style vendor.

If someone needs rare styles or old gear and they are not 117 yet, then by all means I would recommend they stay at 116 or less and get all those styles before going up to 117. If you're already 117 or higher then sorry, it's going to take you much longer to grind the necessary marks. This is nothing new, exact same thing happened when we went from T5 to T6.

I appreciate all this feedback..For example, Lockdown is a very recent fairly challenging raid for a (admittedly) average player such as myself. now, I go in there and unless it's an organized feat run ( assuming I even need said feat) why on earth would I ever go in there??

A non-sequitur for sure but, GD, the flash had a near perfect first season

Doesn't the bounty give you 3 marks? And plus you now are guaranteed a mark from the vault every day?
So 20+35+28+21+21+7=132

You are listing end t6 not beginning t6. Every tier has a lot of content towards the end minus t4. When Amazon Fury first came out all that content wasn't out.
You had 2 iconic solos+ 3 open world solos, 2 duos, and 1 alert.
14+21+28+35=98 plus 2 every 5 days so 100ish

People are too used to gear progression. They must have finished the base item feat already?

Its like this every time we change tiers. Only thing different is the marks for base mods and trinkets we usually could pay with mots. Be thankful tier 6 had no 8 player content and tier 5 had a nearly unbeatable raid.

once again avoiding facts that

when t6 was introduced, you could still run t5 for marks related to things that weren't t6 gear.

Vault can't be included, it'll now always drop a mark, from leveling through tier infinity.
3 or 1 that doesn't change the number dramatically (also I feel confident it's not 3, but lets go with that), after actually fighting that bounty, once this content dries up those marks won't even be reliable, i figured the mbot etc taught them that, especially considering this bounty doesn't drop a unique style

Vault only started rewarding end game marks recently. It wasn't done at t6 release, but it is a guaranteed mark now. If people do them or not that is another story but their is a guaranteed extra 32 marks weekly now if you do everything and they can be spent on the stuff you would have spent on rent money. At 7 MoV a boost that is 4 boosts for 60 days in a week.

I didn't say it was different from any other time a new Tier started.

Your question doesn't make my comment any less valid.

I could say... The various powers in this game aren't vary balanced when it comes to dps.

You could say ... How is this different the powers have never been balanced in this game when it comes to dps.

If you don't like change that's cool but others can say I feel this should change.

Like HOH ... Who thought it was a great idea to have the healer take the feet?
You have the one healer who needs to focus on healing.. let's have them run around and put out fires and pick people up.

You have 4-5 dps that really don't much to do but mindless rotations that could easily do that but No No No

Try telling a group that logic and what will people say...
It's always been that way.

But if you compare what you could do for t5 and now t7, t5 had more content. T7 just has solos and duos for people who dont like team based things. (Which kinda doesn't make sense if it's an mmo.) There was more team based content and it was more "difficult" during it's release. T7 is not really difficult.

Edit: Don't know how but quoted wrong person.

Soooo you're just gonna act like t5 didn't exist? Because people weren't burned out the first 3 days of the contents release. This and AF1 (IMO) were/are terrible dlc's. Takes no time to complete and doesnt require teamwork. Can easily get burned out within an hour. In t5 after your 2 alerts you felt accomplished and had the time to show for it, and lets not forget on tier drops.

It's roughly the same amount of content. They just took one of the solos and one of the alerts and changed them into duos. And added an Elite version of one of the raids.

As for the difficulty... I'd wait until tomorrow at least before saying that. As I posted earlier, tomorrow's hotfix might (or might not) keep people from burning everything so fast.