So... How Many Of You Are Running In Troll-less Groups?

I have role optional disabled and the turds who queue to troll and insist on dpsing are just turds, l don't blame wm.

I see what you did here.

Are there no battle trolls out there?
Ill easily beat an average dps sometimes even geared. I usually come in second in TD .

So troll lower content and still be top in the charts.(pug).

So why not roll with a troll?

Never done a 4 dps run might try it some time.

8 man content its been 5-1-1-1 for T5 and 6-1-1 for anything below T5. For TD I always end up running DPS and then switching to healer at end boss if needed.

I dont mind the removal of support roles from content. They will be back when survival mode launches and when DLC11 comes.

At least Battle Trollers are becoming more viable again.

I have a 190ish pot tick on Gardevoir in that spec, and with WM, she makes a fine secondary/debuff troll.

Trolls haven't lost their necessity, our powers have.

Support roles shouldn't have to just disappear during some content and have to magically reappear for those groups that never wanted them in the first place.

They shouldnt, but they do.

Love trolls....

People are stupid!


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I havent but easily could

Running 2 controller raids is a joke as nobody drops below 75% power the entire raid and 1 controller can easily keep a group powered. Realistically if everyone cycles supply drops, power returning SCs and pops colas frequently, you could very, very, very easily run any raid or alert with no controller.

The role is relegated to power dumping in a game where nobody uses power anymore. As long as Controllers and Tanks cant work in tandem to crowd control and debuffs are luxuries and not necessities, 2 controller raids are dead.

I am which is funny cause both me and my friend are trolls and do alerts together.

Frankly I find it funny when wm was announced everyone was like oh trolls wont be needed.
Frankly its true if healers and tanks used wm but tanks barely can and healers don't.
Plus wm doesn't save power in dps stance.

So I still laugh when I hear someone say wm has made a troll useless. Well if it has no one has told those other players who empty their power bar in 3 seconds flat

I am completely opposed to excluding any role. We all need work!

when you're t6 you can pretty much do whatever you want in a t2 or 3 raids...even the t4 stuff is a cake walk. its actually kind of fun seeing how easy it is to keep a group of 7 low tiered players fully powered. almost like burst healing.

when AF went live the first week it looked like trolls weren't needed anymore but the reality of this was the dlc was only open to legendary players: people mostly in leagues who didnt have to rely on LFG as they had their league trolls on hand. since its gone mainstream the tide has turned. tanks are needed and highly sought after for this alert but overall controllers are still the most in demand role to find.

even with weapons mastery there are still a lot of players out there who dont know how to manage their power bar.

at this point its an obvious sign that player does not know what to do.

4 or 8. Obviously.

So so true. I like how you put it that way about being T6. I have felt a bit OP in content but I try to restrain myself at times from kill everything and sucking the fun from others. Even as a Villain, I like to work as a team but I feel like a Raid boss when more than 8 adds gang up on me like Im a problem to be dealt with but I love it.

What role is not needed in content is more subjective and preference. I never thought of who is needed but all roles should be in the content. Controllers will ALWAYS be needed as most players don't have the mindset to balance their weapon and power attacks but just spam spam spam powers and then when that power is 0 (unless you are overgeared), you are screwed. I am happy for the Tanks but in my groups and runs I organize, Tanks and Healers will ALWAYS be recruited. I don't care what the community thinks is needed or not, heck if it was up to the community, I wouldn't have T6 Gear with Tier 6 mods in them because I "rushed" and didn't play content per week like this was 2006 all over again lol.

Other roles need marks, skill points and experience just as well as I or anyone else do. I think its wrong to deny a role just to shave off a few lousy minutes, big whoop. Its not that serious for me. With WM, you would think individuals would have learned to reserve some of their power but not so much.What makes me laugh is when a player is almost out of power but keep using their powers instead of allowing their power to regenerate with their weapon...Im like geez use some common sense and use your weapon for once. Sometimes if I see another high level player spamming too much and its not needed, I will let my pot regenerate their power but Im more forgiving toward new and lower level fellow Villains.

I agree that at this point some players don't have a clue but I don't blame WM but moreso leagues abd groups that walked their friends to power level and reach T5 without teaching them the basics along the way. Some don't know about heals over time, what aggro is, and not to spam powers and drain your power bar in like 7 seconds. I read posts where other players post ask vets to teach the new players, but some new players don't want to listen and to be honest, google and youtube videos are a new player's best friend. Take some initiative and learn about dcuo and take their time. Im glad GU37 is taking place as it slow down new players from progressing to T5 in a mere week.

Just like anything, DCUO can be a learning process just like any game and I still have faith that eventually players will get better. Regardless of being T6, I still look up guides and watch youtube videos sometimes to learn new battle tactics or Controlling play styles. Even an experienced can still learn a thing or two as MMOs are always changing.

yea i still run with trollers, or i run as one.

If you or someone in your group dies 20+ times and everyone is a Tank and maybe 1 healer and no troll, you know something is wrong.

I've never run without a troll, unless we were in the t6 alert and the troll DCD and never came back. When that happens (which is rare), I just switch to healer and we grab another dps.

So, the new Raid setup will be 5-1-1-1. Funny how thats ok by some players but two Controllers in a Raid is not needed or a joke. But 5 DPS, now thats serious and whats required for Raids? Especially the upcoming T6 Raids. I don't think so.

Looks like I am going to be creating MANY T6 Raid Groups. Truth be told, 5 DPS is whats really not needed and is the real joke. Players need to stop going along with this DPS Universe Online.

Atm u can run just about any setup in most content . Wm is op for now but lets not forget orbitals were also op when launched...... lasted till oc dropped. If dlc11 doesnt initially promote 2-2-2-2 setup AND give use to this wm mechanic ill call it a day with pve.