So gadget has undergone changes?

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by jolaksi, Feb 10, 2022.

  1. Plowed In Loyal Player

    Quite frankly, when Muni came out more people were like, “Wait, I can knocked out of animation and retain the SC? Cool!” Retaining the SC was always an outlier to begin with for munitions.
  2. jolaksi Well-Known Player

    Thats what Im saying. The cast bar did even out that "outliner" with creating interruptability. Now that instant SC usage is here its also time to remove cast bar and make a quick animation for biggun.

    Im also happy to see who were those people saying these comments. Just curious.
  3. AV Loyal Player

    Before the change. You could lose the SC before as well.
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  4. inferno Loyal Player

    I remember this was an issue for fire users who used the Mass Detonation and Fireburst. The long cast time and constant interruption those users were getting while casting left their power bars empty with no pay out in damage. Back then the issue was addressed by the devs so that their power usage was taken after the damage hits. This is not going to be good for fire users as well.
  5. jolaksi Well-Known Player

    So that means, with this new change devs "fixed" the "exploit" they intentionally created? VERY strange.
  6. AV Loyal Player

    True but Fire only needs Fireburst for ranged hallway AoE though so the risk of loss is low. Similarly Mass Density has a 150% cast range and is super safe & situational. The real victim is Ice, since its best boss rotations use Frostblast and it's extremely expensive. The cost of it should probably be reduced to compensate.
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  7. Plowed In Loyal Player

    I dunno, were fire Precision players using Mass Det to clip?
  8. jolaksi Well-Known Player

    Yes. Just like how ice precision players using frost blast or munition prec players using 50 Cal etc.
  9. Plowed In Loyal Player

    If you change the animation time or the forced wait before the damage hit, you change the damage potential of the power/rotation. I don’t think it’s needed to counteract the chance you might get interrupted.
  10. Plowed In Loyal Player

    Maybe further changes will address that.
  11. Proxystar #Perception

    The reality is, this obviously wasn't working as intended, you'll need to adapt.
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  12. Zneeak Devoted Player

    Coming SoonTM In a set of new Artifacts near YOU! :rolleyes::D
  13. Plowed In Loyal Player

    I really enjoyed the teaser “One exploit at a time…” way more than I should have. ;)
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  14. jolaksi Well-Known Player

    Oh Im not makin this thread to defend the biggun nor I am a munition player myself. Its just when somethings need to balanced out / to be nerfed, some other aspects of other powers gets effected by it. Even tho those aspects were not causing any harm.
  15. Illumin411 Devoted Player

    When/where did any dev state that this change was intended to be directed towards Gadgets?
  16. jolaksi Well-Known Player

    As far as I know, nowhere. I highly think the change was just to add a barrier to "cast bar abilities" that used for precision DPSing. It was present for few powers that I listed earlier but it is more rampant with gadgets I guess.

    Also "one exploit at a time" hints me, fix for Bot clips, hologram device, dervish/vortex abilities(idk if these two count as exploit) coming afterwards.
  17. Proxystar #Perception

    I guess there's an argument though that they were causing harm, they were just being less "cheesed" by the community at large, doesn't mean they were ever supposed to work like that.

    I guess when it comes to powers that work like this people are now going to have to consider when, where and how they use them, which was arguably how it should always have been?
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  18. Illumin411 Devoted Player

    Hmm, could be. I guess we won't know until we know. Though if that were the case, I wonder what would be the motivation(s) behind attempting to eliminate precision/weapons as a viable DPS option in more difficult content.
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  19. jolaksi Well-Known Player

    While I partly agree with you but when it comes to a SC like Biggun, 6 years and 9 months sounds pretty long time to say "it never supposed to work like that".
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  20. Proxystar #Perception

    I think they're probably going to go after some of the stealth stuff tbh.

    Dervish isn't really an exploit, if something about it isn't currently working as intended what is it?

    Although I certainly sympathise with this point, it's not the first time they've taken years to fix something either, but yes I sympathise
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