Ridiculous crafting system.

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by ProfessorKanua, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. BipolarDiva Loyal Player

    It's gear. It has stats and a Cr attached. So yes.
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  2. VariableFire Loyal Player

    Amusing bit is that if the threat was carried out, the few defenders of the R&D system would likely disappear.
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  3. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    The RnD system was created along with a boost in drop rate to reduce the outrage by the community about bad drop rate and the ask from the community to move best gear to the vendor during the end of September through the month of October 2015.

    Here we are six months later and the RnD system for gear is only really worth time and effort for items that do not raise yours CR, Facemask and rings. All other items you can obtain through the raid and you should acquire them within reasonable time. YET, I have not seen a weapon on two of my toons from BN and that content is well past that 3 month window you mentioned. My primary has run PBR since launch and has not seen the back or waist. All my other toons are also missing one piece of gear from that content and there is 3 more weeks roughly before the next content is released that will drop Back, Waist, Chest and legs, meaning any gear I could get from PBR is useless due to the fact that the common gear will have higher CR and stats than rare gear in PBR.

    Your comment on gear lasting for 3 months only applies to players who use RB to get best gear day one, period. Otherwise, that is a far fetched reality. I mean, even those who use RB truly do not get a full 3 months out of it. They a full 3 months minus 1 day. :)

    I know Spytle stated over a year ago when AFII came out that drop gear being best gear was to allow players to feel rewarded for their efforts. Let me restate what I stated at that time. I feel awarded for my time and effort in this game when I buy gear over dropped gear. Dropped gear is not really an award for beating 1st boss, usually easy boss or 2nd boss. Reward is beating the content, extra marks for beating the content and using the marks to buy the gear. Not the system we have had for over a year.

    I had good support for my thread BEST GEAR IN VENDOR. Do I need to create another one to illustrate just how bad drop gear is?

    I mean nothing has really changed and I still prefer vendor gear for best gear over dropped gear.

    3 month...I have not got to enjoy the waist or back style on Hal for 3 months. CyberBlue and Tiger went over 12 weeks without a weapon.

    Your gear system is not working...Now if you want me to use RB, not doing that. I rather spend my money on something real, that last more than 12 weeks. I rather buy myself a new pair of socks over paying $10 to replay a raid 3-4 and get gear that will be replaced in 3 months. My socks will last longer than the gear and you know what, wearing my socks I feel rewarded because after 12 weeks, they are still relevant to me.
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  4. Backseid Devoted Player

    *standing ovation*
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  5. Alrighty Then Loyal Player

  6. BipolarDiva Loyal Player

    Well said. Dropped gear should be a unique style . BEST GEAR IN VENDOR ONLY. Except op that can stay drop.
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  7. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    I thought you would have said something about dropped socks vs. bought socks..

    I never wear or touch socks that just randomly drop, but I do wear the ones I buy... LOL..
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  8. Alrighty Then Loyal Player

    Actually it's 4th Best or 2nd Worst.
    1 OP
    2 Elite
    3 Rare Drop
    4 Vendor
    5 Common Drop
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  9. BipolarDiva Loyal Player

    +1
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  10. Protecktor MKV Committed Player

    This^
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  11. BipolarDiva Loyal Player

    Say no to drop socks, and RNG.
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  12. ermike Committed Player

    The main issue with this loot system is there is nothing one can do to get the best stuff without luck. I do not mind the raid drops being the best and find myself geared up rather quickly every month. The problem is the craft able rings/face and the OP items. The amount of scraps needed for the rings is stupid and I would love to hear a reason why rings do not drop in raid like everything else. Same with the face. Hell, keep ur crafting rates the same but allow for face and rings to drop at highest level like all other pieces of gear.
    Now onto the OP items. It was fine when only a few existed, but at this point they are everywhere and for most people are unattainable. It's frustrating to see people with 3 or 4 pieces of gear and be absolutely horrible. The fact that there is no route to this items or ways to increase chances of drop flat out sucks
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  13. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    I just do not trust socks Zod, Ursa or Nun has worn. I mean how long have they been in those clothes...LOL.. :)
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  14. Backseid Devoted Player

    Actually, lol, there's two below Vendor. Green and Blue.

    Wayyy too much gear floating around. Especially now that there's only certain pieces dropping in certain Eoisodes. NONE of which is explained anywhere. So, unless you make a chart or something, no one knows where anything drops!
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  15. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    Rings and Face were pulled out of the loot table because Vendor or dropped gear has no impact to CR, so they made these items craftable only but at half the cost of the other items.
  16. BumblingB Guest

    I'm gonna jump back in and mention:

    Everyone! The crafting system implimented in this game was supposed to be a "supplimental" system, not a "replacement".

    I'm also gonna say.

    The problem with supplimental, is that it wasn't. There are required to craft to get best added to balance the loot drops. The problem with probability drops and runs through content to build a model is that it's just that, a probability. It would require everyone to run everything every lockout to get the baseline amount of scraps. There is really no way that can happen, thus adding to the burn out.

    Anyways, just keep that in mind when you are theory crafting (see what I did there) about the loot system.
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  17. ermike Committed Player

    It's just dumb. They should be in loot tables. The scrap system is beyond horrible
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  18. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player

    Episode 18+

    Month 1: Chest, Back, Waist, Legs
    Month 2: Head, Shoulders, Socks, Hands
    Month 3: Weapon, Neck, Trinket, Utility

    Month 2 craftable facemask
    Month 3 carftable rings

    This has been in play now for 6 months almost. Prior to that, the first 3 months was...

    Episode 15-17

    Non-Elite
    Month 1: Chest, Back, Waist, Legs
    Month 2: Feet, Head, Weapon, Socks
    Month 3: Shoulders, rings, facemask, Neck, Trinket, Utility

    Elite
    Month 2: Chest, Back, Waist, Legs
    Month 3: Feet, Head, Socks, Shoulders
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  19. Derio 15000 Post Club

    Many people have given good comments. However the r&d system was never meant to be used to supplement getting the main pieces. Rings and the face piece that's it.

    All other gear you are expected to use Replay Badges to obtain those pieces of gear.

    Sad but it's the truth.

    I do think there needs to be another best gear vendor gear thread to discuss ways to improve both systems. Unless devs can shed light on the new progression system.

    I don't use the r&d system as it takes too much effort for gear that is easily replaceable. Now when/if #statsmatter happens the current problem with this system will become a bigger problem.

    I can't think of a possible solution that doesn't undermind the RB business plan or one that doesn't hurt that model
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  20. Backseid Devoted Player

    Yeah, I know there's a formula. But as I said, you'd have to have that written down somewhere.

    Not to mention, unless I missed it, there's nothing in game to tell you what instance belongs to what month, it whatever.

    Its one thing to know where something drops the month it cones out, but who's gonna remember what's what a few months down the line?
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