Respectfully, is there any update or information on PvP?

Discussion in 'Battle of the Legends (PvP)' started by ColdFuzion, Oct 11, 2020.

  1. ColdFuzion Well-Known Player

    Hi everyone/devs. I really, really love PvP and especially certain eras of PvP in DCUO. I really want those eras to return, or for some new, engaging era to arrive.

    I have been playing this game since 2011, and I have played so much PvP. I have been playing MMOs for 20 years, and I have enjoyed PvP and the attention it gets in almost all of them. I can't remember which MMOs I played, but I'll make a list later.

    I know there may not be any new information since you haven't announced anything, but is there anything you can share? You've said there are no plans "right now," but that was a few weeks ago. Can you tell us anything you are planning now? I think many other agree with me, and I hope they will add to this discussion.

    - I think some members have come up with INGENIOUS solutions make pvp better. I'll list them in a following post in case they have been missed.

    - I really don't understand why you won't share your plans, if they exist. (I understand you have repeatedly and recently said they don't exist, and wouldn't until other things with more priority can be tackled or tackled more efficiently.)

    - Customers play the game for many specific reasons, and I know the majority of the playerbase has never been interested in why is pvp not prioritized higher?

    - The combat system is so unique it could be developed in to an amazing pvp outlet, even esports. Esports are the future!

    Look, I'm frustrated. I will go to another game or a full PvP game if I can't find that enjoyment in dcuo. That only makes sense, right? I like dcuo for all the characters and customization and loads of single and multiplayer group content, but I want some PvP too.

    Mepps, i respect you and understand your job is in part to speak to players like me on all the different communication mediums, so that information can be as accurate and clear as possible, and so that, for the most part, the extremely skilled developers can spend their time developing, so the team can get the most done. But, if there is someone working on PvP combat mechanics, I would love an update from them and not from you.

    Please, i impure you, give us an insight to what is been worked for pvp?

    thank you for reading.
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  2. BƖack Committed Player

    DEVs it's been like 5 years of a broken PVP. (。╯︵╰。) I'M SO SAD.
    Enough is enough, Please #FIXPVP

    I will post my ingenious plan when I get a little bit of time later.
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  3. Brit Loyal Player

    If you've been playing MMOs for 20 years, then certainly you had your share of Everquest. Everquest had no PvP allowed on almost every server, and the few that allowed it were not remotely balanced. You could get killed by standing in the AOE of one of your group teammates.

    The development team has made their intentions clear. PvP is free. It earns zero dollars. Therefore it is worth investing every penny of that back into it. They will spend their development time and money on areas of the game that pay the bills and keep the game going.

    The plans for PvP going forward are nothing. There is nothing currently in the works. And the team has been very opaque about this. Nobody is lying or pretending like they are working on PvP. It's not happening any time in the near future.

    Not liking the answer is not the same thing as not getting an answer.
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  4. Good vs Evil Active Player

    Thats such a ridiculous answer "it doesnt make money so they wont work on it".

    I suppose giving out free CR Boosts, various bonus weeks for the last few months and open episodes are not a money sink either? DCUO isnt strapped for cash, the reason PVP is ignored is because the dev team either isnt interested in working on it atm or they think people dont care about its current state so long as its functioning.

    I will say the PvE community is probably larger than the PvP community but still the game is the game, you dont neglect one aspect of it at the expense of another, but then again DCUO is guilty of doing this quite alot, kind of a recurring bad habit at this point so I shouldnt be surprised. #FIXPVP
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  5. Brit Loyal Player

    You don't have to agree with it. That's just the answer that the Development Team very openly gave. PvP is not able to be sufficiently monetized. No part of PvP earns the game any money whatsoever. And "fixing" PvP is a fancy way of saying "invest thousands of man-hours and tens of thousands of dollars into having the development team stop producing the stuff that actually sells and actually gets used, and instead work on re-balancing every single powerset and weapon for usage in a game mode that is barely used and which will never earn one penny of that money back."
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  6. Irvynnge Dedicated Player

    ridiculous, it might well be. but that's the answer. the devs has already made that perfectly clear. sucks for people who are into pvp, yeah, but there it is.
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  7. TheLorax Unwavering Player
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  8. Jack T. Chance Loyal Player


    We are the Knights Who Say "Ni"! We demand... a shrubbery! :p
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  9. lordexecution365 Dedicated Player

    I'm wondering when the community decided to agree on what type of "fix" PvP needs.

    Most of the things requested in pass theads has already been implemented already.

    Can't make money off of it, if nobody wants any new change, except for 30%.

    What new idea can the community get behind now.
  10. Fwames Well-Known Player

    Ridiculous but true. They are not hiding it either. Do you remember the reason why they've stopped adding in weapons? Because they've admitted that adding in the shield didn't generate enough revenue to justify the time and money put into it, and that is just one weapon. Now imagine balancing all three roles, all powersets, all artifacts and weapons.

    To simply put it in simple terms according to them "Resources are better off used in progressing the game" and that translates to episodes. If new episodes generate more revenue and general public interest then maybe they can use those to fund new projects geared towards PVP. IMO it is better to keep the game alive and kicked than to satiate a few. Daybreak cares not whence the cash flow, only that it flows.

    Don't get me wrong. I love PVP. I would better much appreciate if the whole system is balanced. Not that it isn't playable but clearly we know the deal.

    Why are there so much post about PVP revamp recently? Did somebody got their buttz kicked in PVP and created multiple accounts on the forum to cry for help?
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  11. PolarisSylar Well-Known Player

    Well, I just think about when has dcuo added :
    New PVP map feats ( belle reve)
    New PVP style feats ( that 101 armor set)
    New legends characters ( I'm still waiting on Grodd)

    Wow, it been awhile since dcuo mess with pvp .
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  12. AdaptiveAndroid Well-Known Player

    5 years without a PvP update is beyond ridiculous tbh. I loved PvP up until weapon mastery came out and it pretty much went downhill from there. Thing about PvP is there was plenty of PvP focused players/leagues that mainly played this game for PvP but still played PvE for skill points. So to say PvP genetates no revunue isn't true. For others it was great filler content to do after you finish your PvE content. Sorry but spamming open world bounties isn't fun filler content. At least take artifacts out of PvP. They only made it even worse than it already was.
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  13. Scarlet Mysty Loyal Player

    No need to exaggerate, PvP does earn money indirectly. At the time Mepps made that comment PvP actually directly made a lot more money than it does now with the game in its current state due to things like open episodes. Minimal monies? Sure but yea no need to exaggerate just to blow bubbles up the devs butt holes. Most of us get it. But reading nonsense is just an unnecessary wind up.
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  14. Dark Soldier Dedicated Player

    They’ve been giving us the answers for years now “we have no plans at this time” then the thread gets locked

    But.. with there being such a great sp disparity between new and old players, how would pvp work? Wed all be stat clamped but really its just all powers do the same amount of damage? Because your crazy to think that all powers are equal

    I sorta think if they just started putting out new maps or game modes people would play it again... right now theres no reason to pvp the last armor came out like 3+ years ago
  15. Ghost27Xog Level 30

    Imo... In PVP the devs should just do "Away" with all the support roles and make the instance all DPS only with the PVP Gear being 1 type of set which would be DPS. It's the only universal role anyways. I know doing this might make it like Legends..but just boost the "Hell" out of the toughness so the fights are epic maybe. The PVP mechanics are a rock , paper, scissor style so the read and react "Skill" would be the fundamental foundation skill needed to be "Good" at PVP not the exploits of roles and the quirky powers or role of the months.
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  16. MrMigraine Devoted Player

    Added a little. :)
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  17. Cyro Committed Player

    I understand that pvp is basically dead and no big updates will likely never come but i would love small tweaks like increasing the rewards for the content thats hard to get into we shouldnt get the same reward for 5v5 as we do for 1v1 and the spawn timers seem random which is annoying.

    Heres the thing if the devs have truly abandoned pvp(which lets face it they have) then give people the pvp feats. 5s pop so rarely and 8s never do, how is someone thats new to the game supposed to get them without cheating?
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  18. SekretVillain Loyal Player

    Know what I find funny, you always throw shade or be rude only on weekends. Hmm wonder why that is?

    Because you know if you did mon-fri you'd get hit with a hammer. Nobody in their right mind is going to respond with the info you seek when you cant ask politely, and dont give me this 'I'm a paying customer I dont have to' that's false. If you go to Walmart you still have be respectful to employees otherwise you wont be served, instead you will get escorted out.
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  19. SekretVillain Loyal Player

    What's ridiculous is every time PvP has been considered being fixed, NOBODY that was involved was able to agree to changes for PvP so now you get told bugger off lol
  20. Bantos2 Level 30

    Everything before revamp was good, different type of metas and playstyles for each year.

    Yeah those things had been implemented before stats revamp, there have been 0 balances since revamp hit the live servers.
    At the end of the days everyone agrees that PVP was playable from 2013-2017 (Until GU73)
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