Rage Update 58

Not.arguing, but it does make a difference. If you are talking +/- 5% and you do math incorrect...
Than your result and conclusion are incorrect.

Why is that? IMHO it becomes a relevant difference when it's more than 1% damage. I'm aware I may be wrong, but still, what can be settled is that the damage difference between those powersets is indeed considerable.

Sure and I agree. But when done incorrectly it comes to 28% difference. When trying to hit -/- 5% those little.math numbers matter

I see what you mean now. Thank you for the clarification.

Very interesting. I'm curious how your next test goes. Thanks for doing them.

What's your point with this?

That you don't know how to use Rage?

Edit. Sorry, I was rude, my apologies.

Mepps said the only damage tunso seemingly cares is boss damage?

This is extraordinary, how do we get that far through the balancing of powers and then have this said?

Not only would I come out and say damage isn't even balanced on bosses the sheer fact you're ignoring add damage when the scoreboard doesn't is ludicrous...

Where do to think your community is looking when it comes to balance? The scoreboard or the damage parser.

They're not looking at the parser that's for sure.

I'm calling time on this trash tbh. I've sat here for months and months hoping this would work out. But it's not, it's just becoming more of a farce.

We still have fotm players running around acting like the scoreboard is the be all and end all of their awesomeness and meanwhile the community suffers and becomes more and more negative as a result.

Either start taking a better approach to balance or scrap the scoreboard.

Enough is really enough.

Don't scrap the scoreboard but adjust what is shown. Have a table for Adds/ Boss 1/ Boss 2 / Boss 3. If they don't care about adds then they need to be specific in what damage is being shown.

Their scoreboards should be divided in 4 pages:

1 - Damage output
2 - Healing output
3 - Aggro output
4 - Power output

Each page would measure who did the most damage and healing, who drew more aggro and who restored more power. Then we'd know if people played their roles properly.

Eat big belly burger and be happy for the day.

I agree with tunso. Boss fights is the real place tof test powers dmg. U can't really show balance on trash when it's simply a matter of who gets there firat gets the most dmg

Tbh I lost hope for power balance when someone pointed out a quote from one of the devs saying roughly 'I don't mind if one or two powers are at the top tier and the rest fall below'. That pretty much told me all I needed to know. Personally I think they've kind of given up on power balancing. The range modifier is the 'duct tape' that they're using instead of true power balancing but that's just imho.

This is all a symptom of one of the major problems the game has had for a long time: the disconnect between the way the devs assume the game will be played (intended) vs the way players actually play (reality). It was only last July that they acknowledged that mid range even exists.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.


As long as the scoreboard shows damage done to mobs, true balance will never be achieved due to the various speeds in AM activations.

Remove add damage or give all powers a short cut / burst option

scrap the scoreboard. great idea , but when group start wiping them won't know whom to kick , the there a hugh thread on who want it removed , it would a big backlash form players more than the rage game update 58 just saying

Agree, but dmg page should be split to adds dmg and boss dmg (because some power do have advantage on adds and some on bosses), mby even add page 5 - we can call it MVP or whatever where you can see number of pickups and if there is sth to activate or carry.

This. The scoreboard should NEVER be removed, only adjusted. Boss vs add damage should be the first thing they change.

Balance is a carrot on a stick, sadly. From a business point of view, it's not even good. Money needs to be made. I firmly believe the people making this game are passionate about it. Just look at SJ, for example. But the people paying their salary want money, not passion. RB fuel this game, Power tokens are likely second. If these drop because everyone is happily running their power and feeling they are balanced or equal, heads will roll.

Or something.

As I'm discussing Quantum in a different thread, I now remember how this OP was surprised to learn Quantum had had its damage adjusted for mid-range. Shocking, I know.

Carry on.

While I do agree that trash damage is irrelevant, the reason they only balance on boss damage is because it's easier.

Yeah. Also if they do this we will be able to further identify what powers have a clear advantage in fights without adds skewing the numbers.