Rage is still looking great

Are you telling me, you adapted to a players technique to beat him? Poor form! Everyone knows proper etiquette means you come here and ask for the players power/weapon to be nerfed!

Rage is nice but I can't see myself switching from quantum I have beat plenty of rage dps's

I completly support them altering outrage as it needed a little bit of a cooldown (might be a little too long but whatever) but dreadful blast was fine and didnt need a change at all im mean hell we only have like 4 moves that can even be used at range dont handy cap us further

Majority of the powersets should be top tier not less than half, that's the exact opposite of balance.

Rage was nerfed but it's still top tier. I just want a slight damage reduction it'll still be top tier and still deal more damage than everyone else.

Easy to counter or not it shouldn't be capable of 3-4 shotting people while only using half the power.

Thanks for the input JEEBIE, now this sounds more reasonable a solution than anything

Again, and you agreed, balance is better than we've ever seen. Of course it would be optimal if all were top tier, but right now you have half at top tier, another fourth right behind that (to where a more skilled player can quite easily overtake a less skilled player) Earth/Elec/Fire could use a bump for sure. Simply adding a damage proc to Fiery weapon would be solid for Fire, if it were on the level of say a ice Bash/INtim or even going the WoD route. Earth, that needs a full revamp on the damage side IMO. Elec... don't know enough to comment

As for half power bar and 3-4 shots /shrug. Doing Retribution, one of our lower power cost powers still. That's 1870 power to do it 4 times. That's in full PVP top tier gear. That's well over half. swap a plague in instead of Ret, and you're looking at even higher. Toss an anoint/benediction for buffs in as well, even more.

Now it is very efficient, it is very big hits. But it's also the most inturruptable powerset. Make it less inturruptable and we can talk about adjusting the other two elements.

It's not a lie it's the truth any good player will put up good dps numbers with any power set for dps. Rage melee will still blow all other powers of equal skill that's a fact. Sorry if I offended you in any way it was not my intention. I was just stating facts.

Edit: if you actually read through the thread you would know I was fire since launch and believe it or not I've always supported the FACT it's the player not the power. Range Rage DPS is in line with others so don't try to twist my words...

IDc what power you are, but I know the power and player saying is bs, you can't say rage will blow all powers away melee, and turn around and say it's not the power it's the player. Because you know 1 player who can keep up with anyone no matter what power he/she is, that';s not the norm

Don't underestimate the power of Mental my friend

Sorry you're wrong brother. Why can't I say that?? I never said or defined how much of a blow out did I? You're just making assumptions and disliking the truth behind it. I don't know just "1".... If I had to put a number on it I'd say ball park 100ish. I don't know who you play with, but that IS the norm for 99% of the people I run with.

Never my brother I LOVE Mental!!!

I meant to say don’t LMAO.... I need to be banned from posting after i get home from work.

I don't think you understand what i'm saying, you can't say that rage will blowout any power in melee everyone equal in skill, and the turnaround and say it's not the player it's the power, lol that's water and oil. Idk the players you run with, but I bet most of the dps not earth electric or sorcery. Fyi I have a sorcery toon since before t5 that was keeping up with all powers in t5

Skill is still the biggest impact.

Take 2 equally skilled players, and sure you'll see differences in powersets. But that's removing the skill variable. You could see the same kind of differences just based on how the content is designed too. More AE, more Single target, you'll see different powersets do better and worse. Melee vs Range same thing.

Lots of variables, but in each scenario Player SKILL is the most important element.

Things are IMO closer than they have been in the past. Earth being a distant bottom is probably the most out of line.

I'm not saying skill not important, what i'm saying is some powers are easier to use, so an unskilled ppl can keep up with a skilled player, and it won't have anything to do with skill, but the power. It's the player not the power is bs, because if that was the case it would be more earth and sorcery dps. Players don't play these roles because they are boring, they don't because they are harder to use, now in t4 content I would agree with that saying, but in t5^ when we are forced to range most of the time it's bs. In t4 when we were able to melee stuff more it was the player.

Sorc got a very nice bump in DPS, reason you don't see a ton is because most Sorcs seem to be healers, or more most people who were fans of sorc but turned away by it's lack of power, were all healers primarily, at least the ones I know.

Dude, lol I see where your coming from. I got it. Rage melee is currently the best dps for melee, BUT all powers in the right hands can at a minimum keep up. All powers can absolutely keep up if not surpass Rage ranged if put in the hands of a skilled DPS. That's all I was saying.

turndown berserk to >%50, then just make it a %35 or even %25 SC

also, man i wish there was even greater risk v reward with the tanking. as in it would be fun to 'carry' rage mode through out an entire fight. same timing/concept except add the option to 'roll' back into rage mode and keep going. choose to crash at reduced or ignored values every 8secs or you can keep it stacking v your buffing health and eventually still have to crash ignore but much more damage coming.

you would have to remove the uwc on RA and SP, or would you..., and a cpl adjustments. but itll never happen lol just thinking

I got beat for the first time in a while yesterday by 300k, by a Rage DPS
He must have been using pd or something because he used quite a bit of power though so there's that. I'd think I was catching up to him and then all of the sudden he was gone.

Crazy thing is this is someone I've ran through before a couple times I believe. While he was using Rage too. So I question everything there is to question about my life.

All I know is dreadful blast hits like everyone thinks DW hits like