how we do get theses? i see people writing in lfg all the time about 8v8 win only but thats boosting/explioting and i dont really want the ban for that and the ques don't pop sat in one for about 8 hours with no pop on them
Currently the best way is to make two groups. Then, both groups simultaneously que the content. There isn't anyone random quing past 1v1 and 2v2.
No, if you're playing arenas as intended. Technically if you're trading wins, that could be seen as exploitation. Making groups to get a que to pop and play an arena is fully intended. It's just you know who is quing instead of randoms. Leagues do this all the time for competition within the league.
but is that also not classed as exploiting too? exploting the matchmaking thats pretty bad on some games not sure where that lies on this game tho i thought it would of been frowned upon since they got scrimmage in the game so that stops people from exploiting the matchmaking? either way i guess we just can't get theses feats legit then kind of a shame really them skillpoints could really help the newer players out and that helps everyone on the game but what can you do thanks anyway
The only way to get those 8v8 and 4v4 feats is by exploiting matchmaking, especially on less populated servers. It would be frowned upon if anyone cared about PvP, or at least if there were players trying to queue those PvP maps and were prevented from entering, by 2 groups rejecting instances until they were matched against each other - which sometimes happens with 1v1s and 2v2s. On EUPC/PS you can literally wait forever, for an 8v8 match, when queuing by yourself, or even with a full group, unless you arrange for another group to queue at the same time. Additionally - trading wins is the only practical way to get the feats, because if the groups are not evenly matched and one wins more than the other, after each win both groups have to wait progressively longer to be matched against each other again, even if they are the only players in those queues. That system was introduced to prevent weaker players from being repeatedly matched against the same stronger opponents and it made sense, when many people were queuing PvP. Now that PvP is dead it makes no sense - at least in 4v4s and 8v8s - but it remains, because (as I said) nobody cares about PvP. Generally, unless you have enough friends/league-mates to form 2 disciplined and committed groups, it's best to just ignore 4v4 and - especially - 8v8 feats, because finding people in LFG can take a long time, so people get bored and leave before the groups are even full, some of them will leave after each match, there will be arguments about whose turn it is to win, or about not being allowed to res iconics, et cetera. There are literally thousands of easier feats new players can focus on instead.
