Preferred Weapon for Earth DPS

Discussion in 'War Room (Powers, Artifacts, & Builds)' started by Commander Coral, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. Black Jaq Devoted Player

    I think another thing worth mentioning with DW is I prefer the DW lunge (vs HB) and DW>ES is two block breaks.
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  2. Modify New Player

    i was Fire Tank primarily which i loved but sadly as nice as fire looks doesn't hit that hard when your in the dps role so after a lot of debating and my friend in my ear every 2 mins to change to earth i finally threw the towel in and become earth which i have been for about 3 months now so im by no means an expert but i use HB and i do the scissor kick rotation as soon as my character leans back to do the scissor kick i drop a power so i get double the damage in the dps role also i don't use WM and im currently set up for Prec and might where as in the fire tank role i was more might and resto based and i also use fortify golem at every chance i get and now im usually second or third on the damage board at the end of a raid, 1st of 2nd during and alert and 1st in a duo

    #iFearsome
  3. SSeid Committed Player

    1H for all situations ( 4 tap hold combo and don't spec WM on that tree )

    Everything else is doing much, much less dmg. If you are looking to do the max dmg possible then 1H. If you have a more romantic view of things and you enjoy being, well not first .. then any weapon should do the trick.

    Since you already use the second best weapon and combo for this power, if you look to become better only 1H is left. The rest of the proposals in here are inferior to what you already use.

    P.S. General advice to all: Unless you use WM. ( which you shouldn't in the first place ) Do not spec for it in the weapon you use, it reduces the dmg that normal combos do. For example if you use SK or solar from HB you will do much more dmg with them if WM is not specced on the HB tree.
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  4. ChromeWarriorXTC Loyal Player

    I agree with Hand Blasters I use that with a dual mastery in bow. Seems to work well also saves on my power out in the end run.
  5. Pults Loyal Player

    It's not that bad, the biggest drawback is the vulnerability of FB other than that it's ice without the SC.
  6. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    Drop the WM point. I get more damage out just using 3 throws vs. WM with the DP end move. For some reason all weapons are performing higher damage than WM.

    I know back in August there was a fix as that was happening during the summer. It appears that fix was over written recently as WM attacks are weaker than standard weapon attacks.

    I wish they would fix it so WM are stronger as it takes more SP to acquire said moves.
  7. Xibo Loyal Player

    Even BN?
  8. SSeid Committed Player


    Well your question is a matter of player skill. If you can do it without dying every 2 min, then yes.. if you can't stay on your feet then refrain from using anything that gets you close to the action.
    It is not specific to BN, same applies to every piece of content.
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  9. Xibo Loyal Player

    Works well with my main toon at least on UMn but I was using GS I had no problems with deaths, just 1.
  10. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    You know flip slash is an exploit due to its range. I have a feeling with weapons being next up for adjustment all melee attack from weapons will have a near 0 range.

    Until that is fixed, enjoy your exploit and mass damage done but such a move.
  11. Veritech Loyal Player

    SK hits harder when specced into wm
    SF does not.

    The no wm rule applies only to standard moves that have a wm combo attached to them such as SF>explosive shot mastery.
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  12. SSeid Committed Player

    True, SK was a poor example.
  13. SSeid Committed Player


    You mean an AoE melee weapon attack has range so it can hit more than 1 enemies at once therefore completing its original purpose of being AoE..
    Yes sounds like an exploit.

    Of course the weapon attack has been the same for 5 (?) years.. but it is only now an exploit because it works well. Just like SK was an exploit when it worked better than all other combos.

    No-one is disputing the fact that it does more dmg than it should but you seem clueless as to what is wrong with the move. It is really sad.

    Of course when this type of posts come from a known whiner they don't have much gavitas.. but mate, friendly advice here: try to at least think before you whine. It makes you seem extremely foolish when you state things like this. I know you are desperate for an explanation as to why you suck at making dmg.. but at some point you will have to accept that the problem is you!

    Stop blaming the stars and the sky.. You have been doing so for a long time and doesn't seem to help. The answer to your problems is: Get better! Once you do that everything else will fall into place.
  14. Jacob Dragonhunter Steadfast Player

    Either 1 handed, bow, or handblasters.

    Those are my preferred Weapons of choice.
  15. xD25x Dedicated Player

    I wouldnt put much stock into what this guy says. After the last argument i had with him, where i bodied him i might add, i got tells from about 6 or 7 different people including one who claims to be his friend. Apparently hes not very good. Its always the subpar players who use exploits and glitches then claim to be beast.
  16. Jacob Dragonhunter Steadfast Player

    Dude, I'm starting to question weither you know whats an exploit or not.

    You talked about stuff that wasn't exploits in the HL thread, and now you're claiming 1 handed is an exploit?
    You're not a game developer, you're a player.
    You can't verify these things.







    Just saying, If you think it's an Exploit then how about report it instead of making claims?
  17. not_again Dedicated Player

    What is the 1 hand exploit that everyone is talking about?

    Is it the damage? If so, I agree it may need another look and will probably get it in the weapon pass

    Is it the range? If so, I do not understand where the exploit is. That is essentially saying a dps standing at 7m is exploiting because they are doing the same damage as if they were standing at 0m.
  18. Jacob Dragonhunter Steadfast Player

    it's the range, people thinking that 1 handed is an exploit, because you can do this:

    Tap melee 4 times backwards, turn around, hold melee into flip slash. This will make so that you can hit one handed flip slash within mid-ranged distance.

    There are videos on youtube show casing this trick with one handed.

    I wouldn't take people's word for it, unless a developer confirms so.
  19. not_again Dedicated Player


    So melee damage at 7m is an exploit? Should we be reporting Gadgets, Mental, Ice, Fire, etc. for standing at 7m regardless of which way they have their characters facing?
  20. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player


    I report anything I find that is an exploit. I believe in fair play and getting the game balance. If something provides a power or only a handful of powers an unfair advantage as a DPS it is an exploit, especially if it increase DPS by over 10K.

    So you are saying that is perfectly fine that 1H Flip Slash can hit at 12M range and do 30-60K in damage and stand in the safe zone away from possible AOE one shot of the boss.

    Very common idea is describe below for those defending in game glitches or exploits.

    "Players defending using an exploit argue that the rules of the game allow it and that players might not know they are behaving against the designer's intention."

    I'm pretty sure that the devs do not want a weapon attack hitting for 60K at 10-12M range. I'm sure that the devs do not want 1H Flip Slashing hitting in the same damage range as AM abilities with finishers. I'm confident a fix will happen and believe it will occur with the mid range update.