Please Do Not Remove Stat Caps

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Shark Dental, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    Devs, there have been a lot of crazy ideas thrown around by the usual suspects, among them wanting to remove stat caps. I'm firmly against this idea. I think that the current stat balance weight of gear/sp/mods/artifact is just right. In fact, given the growing amount of sp that comes out with each time capsule and episode, I ask that you continue to look for alternative ways to get stats that aren't dependent on finding 7 other people who all have to follow instructions and performing boring, repetetive and sometimes absurd achievements.

    Also, please keep in mind that many veterans who played during the AM days were able to obtain many of their feats via exploits and one-shottable content, whereas now you have properly balanced difficulty, making it more challenging to obtain large feats requiring a full raid group to cooperate, like LoLS, Ultimate Victory and the like. The fact that so many obtained feats so easily doesn't make it fair for new players.

    Also, please keep in mind your Villain population and the excruciating circumstances that exist on that desolate wasteland of anything not endgame.

    Finally, I tought it important to note that other threads about removing stat limits have received hundreds of visits, which isn't fair to those of us who want to keep stat caps in place.
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  2. Dene Prince Devoted Player

    Honestly - I wouldn't worry. The backlash if they did that would be bigger than anything we are seeing from 1 or 2 right now.
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  3. Mercenary Checkmate New Player

    so much sass lmao
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  4. Jacob Dragonhunter Steadfast Player

    Suspects vs Suspects.

    Looks like we need to get the Fashion Files on DCUO to solve these cases.

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  5. Tarif Committed Player

    Oh, we are jumping over here now? Sure, I'll repost!

    Devs, by now you know many of us disagree. Lose the Stat Caps please. And heres why:

    ~"I have always played this game and supported it well financially as a customer - for my characters progression. I have said, and will keep saying that I feel that dynamic has been taken away.

    I play this game as a comic book fan, and to me, the way things are being reflected right now, it doesnt even feel like Im playing a super hero game anymore. I literally feel like Im now playing in one reoccurring piece of stat-clamped content.

    As customers and as players, over the years, some of us had to grind Feats for the growth and progression of our characters - To better our characters performance, like many other older players, I put in that work and earned My characters progression. I also paid for that progression through memberships, buying content, marketplace items, purchasing stabilizer keys at first, and countless hordes of replay badges.

    That growth, is no longer being reflected properly to me. Not in comparison to players that have no where near put in the time, money, and effort into their own characters.

    All content, even elite and survival modes can be completed with minimal skill points, but theres nothing fair to us as customers and as long time players when someone of equal skill is performing on damn near the same level with half the skill points, as characters that put in that time, money, and effort. That wasnt earned.

    We worked for Our SPs to Earn the Rewards as an investment. That isnt being reflected the way it always has to me in game now. That has taken the feeling of my characters growth from me that I feel I have earned over years of gameplay, and have paid for as a customer.

    Our SPs need to better reflect that work we had to put in, and for what we paid for, in comparison to those that just want to chase gear, and have not.

    Best solution I can think of, that would be a great start to reflect the progression of our characters all this time, is to remove the Stat caps. That would give us full flexibility to design our builds as we want them to be, with the SPs we have earned and paid for in game.

    Stat caps are only holding back veteran players that have earned their growth."
  6. Trexlight Devoted Player


    Well said. If folks feel their stats are meaningless then cap or no cap, that feeling wont go away.
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  7. Harlequin Devoted Player

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  8. Punch Drunk Active Player

    So now we know the real reason. Someone wants the game to be easier and struggles in content. Nice I am still waiting to see the post asking for the skip to 200cr thread. Not one of my Sp comes from using an exploit and to make the statement should anger just about everyone who has gotten them finished. Playing the game as designed has been your whole argument the entire time on the other threads and now you are calling us out for finishing feats while playing the game as designed. Way to go dude! You just made any opinion you could possibly have invalid.
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  9. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    Oh, please. Good for you if you never used the gorilla barrels in GOMe or the gorrilla beach ball combo for Ultimate Victory or the latest glitches. Also, I never said that I struggled in content. This isn't about me. This is about the multitude of current and new players. Do you deny that getting feats is more difficult after AMs and god status was removed?
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  10. Tarif Committed Player

    I will argue that Ive been grinding feats off and on for 5+ years.

    Work is there for your character's progression if you want the reward that investment should be providing.

    Im not coddling new players or to players that dont want to put that additional work in. They can run any content with minimal SPs if theyd like, and get through it. but if they want to be on anything near the playing field of someone that has double their SPs, that has to be EARNED.

    I get my feats as they come out with each dlc or episode release, like many others try to do. So I aint feeling anything your trying to get across with this.
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  11. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    You didn't answer the basic question. Do you, or do you not agree that getting feats from past DLCs is now more difficult than during the days of AM? Simple question, I'm sure you can figure it out.
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  12. stärnbock Devoted Player

    what bothers me is the exponential stat increasements wich is partly ok, because fitting with the gear...
    just: hybrid players are driven away from precission, because might+power is giving them much more.
    well then, why even bother with weapons, if super powered is doing even much better in comparison:
    needs less SP, does more dammage, easier to play and no splitting of stats in any way... am i wrong?
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  13. Tarif Committed Player

    That would depend if they were doing the feats at level or not, when they were current when the episode or dlc came out. We also didnt have the advantage of getting free SPs tokens, or the options to skip right to a certain cr/ sp level.

    Would they be easier in the am/wm eras to go back several CRs below your gear to complete? Yep, but your also asking a baited question. Keep in mind, Most of them WOULD ALSO be easier to do that way STILL, once geared properly and people went back for them in the ways your suggesting. Most of us did not earn our SPs that way. Still dont. We get them as soon as they drop in content and are available. If done while leveling, it still evens out.

    Keep looking for angles though. Im amazed that you would even suggest that people shouldnt be entitled to what they have earned as customers and as players, just to cater to player types that have not earned their own growth.
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  14. lordexecution365 Loyal Player

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  15. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    The problem is your idea of entitlement and what YOU DESERVE is way different from what the devs consider you have earned. You're crying about not being able to be OP, plain and simple. You have exactly what you were promised, increased stats. You were never promised anything regarding how much those stats would be, or whether they would only be damage stats.
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  16. Tarif Committed Player

    And your spinning and making assumptions again. Man, you really are missing it. Stat Caps only hinder players that put in the work for their characters, EARNED their SPs, hell, paid for them as customers, and NOT those that have not put the work in to have earned them. For any role.

    Stat Caps only limit those that put in that work, Earned their own growth, and have the SPs to spend. It doesnt effect players that do not have higher levels of skill points built up. Period. But Im pretty sure, you know this.

    My idea of being Entitled to what I have paid for, and what I have EARNED in game, that is being held back from those that went through the time, money, and effort to build our characters is basic common sense. It isnt a false sense of entitlement if somethings been earned. I think you confuse the two. They are two very different things.You want money, you make it. Get a job. Collect cans. Something. You dont get to build muscle by watching others lift weights, do you? You go in the gym, or you pick up the weights yourself, and you put in the work to earn your way towards your goals. If you dont put in that work, do not expect results. That goes for anything in life.

    Keep spinning though, its amusing everytime you do this to yourself.
  17. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    No, stat caps maintain balance in the game. By, you know, establishing a ceiling that devs can build content around. Like, duh. That's how it works in any MMO. Stats always have diminishing returns (i.e. the more you put in, the less you get out of it) the higher you go.

    However, I'm not the first person to tell you this, over and over and over, but you just keep crying out because the game isn't what you DESERVE. Like I said, you knew what you were getting into when you went for those points. No one forced you or promised you anything close to what you're suggesting.

    I'm done responding to this point.
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  18. Shark Dental Devoted Player

    Yeah, sound logic has that effect on some people. Go figure.
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  19. krytine Loyal Player

    It almost seems like someone double talks all the while not giving a straight answer
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  20. Trexlight Devoted Player

    This. Caps arent the devil but a way to maintain the difficulty in content. If youve reached said Cap then congrats, you are at the strongest possible level for the current Episode. If someone feels like this is a "handicap" then they are only trying to focus on their ego. Nothing more, nothing less.
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