most things even in high end raids will die before NCN is finished, only place I see it winning is in prime which is basically what all your testing is on since you seem to be using sparring targets to calcuate(single target=prime)
Lol 400k let me guess pug group and you pop an ATK 4 consumable. Plus I'm sure you didn't carry the crystal and if your team split up you went with the tank. I think the fact that we have many options is a plus, I say go with which one your comfortable with for set situations.
Thanks! So no hold claw? Id miss that bad boy! I get its about speed but I've been running this combo anyway only I use hold claw and clip it with ram because of the hot of HC. It's very power heavy but hits like a truck, is NCN really so much faster that it makes up for losing HC damage? HC can be clipped pretty early. Great job to you all by the way, HC community is really great and all the contributions on this guide have helped me massively.
For single target, a slightly modified version of NCN will work I guess. claw-ram-whip/ram-snaptrap. Just to show you how fast this can be done. I'll be uploading a video soon.
Any reason for leaving out HC and not using ram to clip it instead of going straight to ram from claw? It would add a slight amount if time to the rotation but is the damage from HC not worth it?
I wouldn't say no more HC the NCN is just one of many combos being suggested, all combos I feel are just as good again just more of what you feel comfortable with and the situation.
NCN solves that internal cool down issue and maximizes the use of our best aoe combo ram/WT. unless I'm wrong, if I am please correct me.
I tent to switch between the NCN but clipping the HC between claw and ram (only power permitting though, it eats that bar like a fat kid eats cake!) and ram, WT, clip snap trap, fan, for range ill leave out the WT and not bother clipping ram, just combo into snap trap, fan, phantom triangle and repeat. I would just put the combo names but I always forget them lol. If someone confirms that not clipping HC is a higher damaging combo then ill leave it out but it seems to hit hard and can be done very fast still. I do mess up clipping WT from time to time though and just miss it out altogether, leading me to panic and accidentally spam tap triangle attacks lmao so I see a lot of improvement to come and would love to raid with an awesome HL DPS. As it stands though, I comfortably too the scoreboard in everything so I'm kind of stagnating, hence wanting to get smashed by a better DPS to help up my game
Will do tomorrow. The damage of st must offset whipthrash. But so far it ( time of execution )seems identical to NcN due to claw IC.
You should just see a small to no front advance in your position if done correctly. If you are seeing WT you are doing it too slow.
What world are u living on and how much dps do those people do!?!?! Do you not understand that as of now this is our fastest dps possible? Just because the entire rotation takes 2.12 seconds DOES NOT mean that u dont get damage tell the end of it. This is by far the highest burst damage I have seen in this amount of time. so parden the french but wtf are u even talking about? What are you comparing this to? HOld claw? If you are comparing this to hold claw then you must realize that the ram and whip are in place of the hold claw...and also that these moves do more damage then the hold claw, hince why this rotation is higher dps at this speed. I really dont mean to insult your intelligence, but this is like the 8th post talking about how this combo is worthless because everything is dead before it is finished. very untrue. If that were true then i would happily just stand by and watch you or whatever godmode dps you are talking about murder stuff before i can even get to it, because what you are saying just does not make since. p.s. the entire rotation is cone based so not single target, whips dont split until at least 3 and ram as well, not sure on exact number it starts to split. Last thing is to to the snaptrap quote above. I believe they are talking about powerram-combosnaptrap which will not give the modifier of 50 percent.
Yes also at proper speeds you see the double ram as shown in the video. Nice snaptrap btw, looking forward to the numbers, this could be higher on single target due to the Dot, however since the combo is done so fast it might be better to do whip in 1 rotation and snap in another so that we dont waist the ticks from snaptrap.
haha! was about to say like i dont even understand anything that was being said. In any logical terms obviously ncn will do more damage lol. anyways thx for the "pro tip" ^^
