Omaar's HL dps guide.

Discussion in 'Oracle’s Database (Guides)' started by OMAAR, Feb 15, 2013.

  1. RamsesVIIX New Player

    There is a significant difference between the PS3 and PC HL combos. Obviously. I've seen PC clipping it is impeccable, if not 2x faster than PS3 clipping.
  2. Clip New Player

    But without the pull u could run snap-fan-pt for better results i think. I love the stacking dots aswell but everytime i run with it, it seems like a loose in damage.
  3. Orphan Fromdabloc New Player

    I get this feeling also, it just feels like I loose damage with the pull.
  4. OMAAR New Player

    Did nexus again last night. SSS has netted me terrific results when range is a must.

    Since most of the bosses are single target burn I will get new brawl CTSV values ( if changed ) and assess new SSS numbers using brawl.
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  5. Tsavorentless Dedicated Player

    I think i might... I just couldn't picture off the top of my head exactly to a tee wut I do but I think u get the idea.
  6. Clip New Player

    But for the raids when u have to stay away and have a single target what about:

    GH-fan-pt-snap-fan-pt repeat
  7. JEEBIE Steadfast Player

    I think that's theortically the best, but pulling it off.... omg haha. I was able to get it down the best I could and I'd run a few rotations then just start messing up.

    I have to say GAS seemed to work great for bedo last night. Every time he want to cold snap I caught up, then he'd go GAS and start passing me. Not sure what is different but as bed said, on the nexus run we were on FFF... no way in hell :p

    I realize most people are heros so maybe there's a a difference. Also MAYBE ps3 vs pc although I find that less likely.

    I will say... ninja and future batman... i hate you! :D
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  8. Clip New Player

    And i thought developer are lazy and just change the skin on the bosses :D
    But i think the combo i wrote above wasnt mentioned before. Ill give it a try on the next raid.

    And i share the same feelings for lex xD
  9. Warlan New Player

    Yes, I think that was what I was doing and I wish I would have seen your post! I was also randomly hitting hold afterwards because that's what I do trolling (for example using grasping hand). So between tapping too fast, sometimes holding and the lag it was a mess. I think I redeemed myself in an alert run last night. I tried running as a DPS to get troller gear and it still didn't work. Expect me to be banned shortly when I rant about lack of troller drops. HL for me is one of those classes that radically changes going from troller to dps and pvp troller to pvp dps. It's almost like playing different classes and I respect differently for each thing. When I was gadgets and mental is was just a simple dual spec and same loadout more or less.
  10. Warlan New Player

    GAS does 10 more dps (rough estimate based on tick damage bed provided), in theory than Cold Snap when it's just one mob thanks to the ticks stacking now. As soon as there are 2 or more mobs though Cold Snap is better.

    Could someone time chain>MG>WT/Ram>WT and allow all six ticks of gun to go off? Thanks!s
  11. WeaponNine New Player

    Beat Nexus a few days ago got the precision waist (final Boss Drop) will post picture with stats.
  12. bedovean New Player

    It cannot be done faster then 2.01 and Omar can do it in 2.06. I'm PC Omar is ps3
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  13. bedovean New Player

    So 2 taps only helped your issue?
  14. Warlan New Player

    Actually, hard to confirm because I didn't repeat PBG (where I had the issue). I do notice that there are less errors if you do just two taps.
  15. Clip New Player

    Ok thx didnt know u made numbers already... With such a slim difference it should still be working for us on ps3. Will give it another try on the next nexus run.
  16. Mad9 New Player

    Between Cold snap and SSS, which is better?
  17. bedovean New Player

    can you check my numbers on last page for those 2 warlan, even with all 8 dots added and only 2 for snaptrap(giving it the extra 1 cause i dont think it gets it) it still shows numbers higher for coldsnap unless i calculated it wrong, also i need to know changes that were found involving real damage. The numbers on that page are just per second - buff from using ranged/melee weapon. I saw that after jeebie told you guys something numbers drastically changed and lowered, i just did not know what it was.
  18. bedovean New Player

    Have never liked SSS, If i am going to do anything similar it would be FFF...SSS seems like a waist to me.
    pre me doing the numbers i would say that SSS is not as good as either GAS nor coldsnap or WTF....may be wrong.
  19. Warlan New Player

    Combo, time, power, power/s, 1mob, 2mob, 3mob, 4mob, Efficiency
    RSF-rifle 2.1 250 119 966 1665 2363 2759 23
    War's (Impact>GH>ghpull>Fan>pT>) 2.4 250 104 1012 1639 2267 2618 25
    War's (impact>gh>ghpull>ram>st>LW 2.9 800 276 1024 1682 2152 2623 10
    War's (impact>GH>Ghpull>Fan>pT>/LW>Throw>pT) 2.9 550 190 1121 1991 2862 3514 19
    War's (Ram>ST>Fan>/LW>throw>pT) 2.4 550 229 1171 2082 2992 3373 15
    War's (GH>Ghpull>Fan>pT>/LW>Throw>pT) 2.9 650 224 1182 2126 2850 3355 15
    War's (Impact>GH>ghpull>Fan>pT>/GH>ghpull>Fan>pT) 4.2 600 143 1177 1822 2467 2793 20
    War's Ram-ST/LW-pT 1.6 550 344 1233 2134 3035 3936 11
    SSS-rifle (Ram>ST>/P-ST>Fan) 2.1 550 262 1230 2004 2779 3218 12
    War'sMG>ST>Fan>phT>jp>/Ram>ST>Fan>phT>jp/) 3.2 500 156 1256 2053 2849 3249 21
    Bed's (GH>ghpull>Fan>pT>) 2.1 350 167 1263 1829 2396 2630 16
    War's(Pimpact>GH>H-GH>Fan>pT>jp>/P-ST>Fan>pT>jp/) 3.5 550 157 1307 2081 2855 3246 21
    War's(P-ST>Fan>pT>jp/Pimpact>GH>Fan>pT>jp>/) 3.0 550 183 1313 2216 3119 3575 20
    War's(ST-Fan-pT) 1.2 300 250 1390 2392 3393 3807 15
    War's (GH>ghpull>Fan>pT>/P-ST>Fan>pT) 3.2 650 203 1401 2150 2899 3210 16
    War's (ST>Fan>pT/LW>throw>pT) 1.9 600 316 1449 2636 3824 4639 15
    War's (GH>Fan>pT/ST>Fan>pT) 2.5 650 260 1440 2396 3353 3749 14

    Note this assumes rifle with 904 prec, 2101 might, 157.1 weapon, I'm assuming that at range you only get 2 ticks per mob for Ram attacks. The MG version is assuming 3 ticks. ST ticks I give 5 for RSF and SSS and only 2 for Cold Snap (ST>Fan). GH ticks I give a flat 264 which needs to be updated.
  20. bedovean New Player

    Yes, I do not know what to multiply it by to get real damage because Jeebie discovered something? also my calculation on the last page was with 1186 prec and 2108 might.