New Loot System

Now just make it tradeable within the instance or account-bound with a cr requirement and it'll be perfect.

Not true. The drops would still be random, but leaving them unattuned lets the player possibly upgrade gear for their role/off role. Nothing is going to determine if you complete said style but the loot tables.
I've been playing for well over a year and still haven't completed the Oolong (chest), Avatar Infiltrator, or Hive Defender sets.

This is not better at all, you're essentially taking the power away from the player to decide what he/she needs. So in an alert where you have a tank, healer, dps, and troller the loot could look like this:

tank: healer chest
dps: focusing element
healer: troller feet
troller: ninja stars

or tank: healer chest, troller feet, focusing element
dps: plan
healer: focusing element
exceptional recovery kit

This in my opinion is worse. With ninja looters you lose once, move on, and never play with that player again. I can only imagine going through Nexus/Paradox and any high level content where everyone works hard only to get things they don't want and have no control over.

Do you only get one piece of gear?
I didn't know how the loot system would work so I just assumed it would be like the monthy/weekly bonuses with a bunch of gear inside.
I'd probably prefer that because it saves space. I can open them after I get out and clear some inventory(trash).

This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the grease. There is a small group of people that cry like teething babies when they lose a roll, they are the same that will make the new complaint threads. I'm gonna wait to see how the drops actually work and what its like before I pass judgment. However, I think all we've done is trade up the ninja threads for another one.

I don't care because is:


all i can see here is Winning!

The amazing blacklisting that will go on when the healer decides to salvage the loot instead! You ninja'd me out of your loot!

Dear Developers,
"Free for all" and "Need on role" should be added to the options in the "F1" tab. The group does a loot vote of which they want. Free for all, everyone can need on anything their sweet hearts desire. Need on role enables needing only on role, and that accounts for DPS also. Ninja looting would become extinct and it would settle a lot of rage and hatred everyone has after being ninja looted. I'm so tired of getting gear I NEED for stats taken from me so someone can work towards a feat that they need. If I get that certain piece of gear, I will never need it again. If you want a certain piece of gear, go into the instance with that role. There's nothing wrong with using both of your roles DPS...

/facepalm

What could have been awesome with some careful thought is ultimately fail before it even gets out the gate.

Well at least we'll all have something to salvage.

Perhaps I'm not understanding what all the fuss is about, but this seems like an improvement to me. Sure the chance of loot is random and you may only see something part of the time, but it fixes more than a few things in my book.

First, any Time Traveler gear that drops for you will simply be yours. It fixes the problem of making it non-unattuned and it ends the whining between dpsers and the other roles

Second, if unattuned gear drops for you, you won't have a one-in-8 shot anymore, it will be 100% that you get it. There may be less drops per boss, but unless the boss was dropping 8 pieces of gear, I like these odds better.

Lastly, it ends the silly "role only on your role" rules that permeate most high end raids. I understood the need for this when Origins was first released, but now Nexus pugs don't usually even take players below cr95 and Paradox is worse. Anything people roll on for their role from the underbosses is only for style or salvage anyway. Theoretically we will all have a 50% chance of getting a piece of gear we can use (be it through our main role or our off-spec role) every time loot drops. It gives players who use both of their roles a better chance to gear up.

I haven't checked this out yet to see it in action, but it sounds pretty spiffy to me!

How is it a fail, they already explained it. If you need another explanation here is something i sent in a message to someone hope you understand it:

Not exactly, the loot is the same on test as it is on live.
During the first five bosses in nexus you get 1 gear drop, fe v, and maybe a plan. So for first 5 bosses it's possible for 1 guy to get 2 items (gear piece and fe v), whilst another gets 3 drops (fe v, gear piece, and a plan).
Same goes for final boss also, it is possible to get 4 drops (2 pieces of 86 or 87 gear, expert plan, and time traveler piece) in nexus and paradox on the final boss. Going by that one person could get two pieces of gear (86 cr piece and a traces in time piece), while another person could get an expert plan and 2 86 cr pieces of gear and then the next person could get an expert plan two 87 cr pieces of gear (traces in time) and a time traveler piece.
So basically you still get the same drops per boss, it's just now each person gets their loot. They moved towards this because many people would do multiple raqids and not receive a anything for it from either other roles rolling on their gear or just outright losing the role.
Discouraging many people to stop running certain stuff and for others to kick people at certain bosses.




Also You do NOT receive boxes in the t5 content you. You receive gear just as you would with rolling on loot. As far as i can tell you also don't receive off role pieces of gear. For example if you're a fire tank you would only receive dps and tank pieces, not healer or troller pieces..so if that rare traces in time piece drops it will be either dps or your support role.

How is this system bad?
That item you didn't want was going to drop if you were in a group. That same item is now going to drop for you. Instead of everyone sharing probability , you now have your own. You weren't going to get the item anyway. I think all the people who are fussing just hope if they cry loud enough the devs will just make loot roll specific to you even though it has never been that way. Why take the carrot away so fast? You are only left with a stick afterward.

The only things bad about it are that it now gets in the way of leagues gearing up via teamwork, and that it is a fix to quiet down the whiners (they'll only find something else to cry about anyway).
I think it could be good in that it seems overall more loot will drop. I also like that other roles gears drop as I like having a set of the other stuff in the bank in case I want to switch powers.

Wait soooo the loot system is on test couldnt possibly mean its being tested and may not make it to live with out some testing.
wait till it hits live to shut it down it may be a good thing if the loot tables are adjusted.

Dear lord this is so sweet I'm almost considering ending my boycott over the deserter penalty. Almost.

wait is that true the drops you get are only going to DPs and your support role?

Simple really.

It'll help PUG's where you find yourself rolling against people you don't know who would roll need on drops "just because".

However, if you are in a league run where group members would gladly pass on an item to ensure the person that actually needs it, gets it. Well then you are screwed if the item you need goes to someone else, aren't you?

My prediction is that the forums are going to be full of people starting threads complaining about healers getting nothing but tank gear, tanks getting nothing but troller gear, and trollers getting nothing but healer gear.

On the upside salvaging feats will get closer to completion and the price of complex materials might finally come down LOL.

Will we get one loot box with multiple items? Or one loot box per item? In the final encounter in nexus we *sometimes* get a plan, weapon, and a piece of gear. So will all those be in one loot box? Or will we get a separate box for each ?

no boxes - all items will be in your inventory - plans,weapon,etc...