New Legendary Subscriber Benefits Ideas

even though i would like the cash cap completely gone too, how about adding options?
1.) a cheap subscribtion that frees you from the cap, but has none of the other benefits
2.) you could buy escrow for a whole year, wich is half the price of a yearly membership
3.) you can pay for a one time only feature to get rid of the cap forever (most expensive)
either way, ppl would still get scared away by the cash cap, forcing you into micro transactions...

Subs already have a special vendor. Its the loyalty vendor
There are some good ideas in this thread and most are from FatalStar. The majority of posters here sound like they have some kind of complex against non subs. Its sad to this kind of animosity towards your fellow gamers, some of which only buy episodes or sub occasionally. The last thing this game needs is to drive away any customers, even potential customers.

anyways: i guess i would not be legendary if the cap wouldn't exist.
in the long run, i guess i would pay even more without the membership.
that is, if i would buy each DLC... maybe, rasing the prices would help?
that way, ppl would pay more for a DLC than for four months legendary.
that could even out the loss of escrows and the loss of subscribtions...
however: exorbitant prices most likely scares away even more players.

The loyalty vendor is for PS and is similar to the Marketplace. It's not exclusive for subscribers at all.

No one's talking about animosity (since many of us have been both premium and subs at various times) it's about getting value for what you pay for. Many subscribers feel that subscription wouldn't be worth it if premiums had a high cash cap or no cap at all. The devs can roll the dice on who is better for the economy if they want to, of course. They're the ones with the actual spreadsheets of how many premium players there are, how much they spend on average, and whether or not subscribers are very important to the game or not.

Raising the cash cap to 20k, heck even 100k does not devaluate Legendary value in any way, people claiming it does or that it will force members to unsub are crying foul for no reason except that they see it as a way to extort more membership benefits. You can discuss additional Legendary benefits on their own merit without dragging premium benefits down in the mud with your silly arguments.

The subscription model definitely needs to be looked at as well as premiums.

I started a reply on this last night but cancelled it because I did not want to be negative.

What premium benefits? Are there benefits for premium members I don't know about?

You're the one wanting change the existing system, so it's on you to prove that it won't have this effect on members.

It definitely would on me, though I can't speak for anyone else.

20k does devalue Legendary, but I could live with it because it's more of QoL improvements rather than actually participating in the broker.

How about this...

First, update Promethium Lockboxes. Make all faction-specific styles available cross-faction through them. So far, every single style I’ve gotten from them I later encountered through other means (primarily by completing collections), which makes them mostly pointless, so this is sorely needed anyway, IMO.

Subscribers

• No cash cap (as it is now)
• 3-7 day early access to new DLCs/content
• Exclusive style vendor using exclusive currency that comes via monthly allowance - 1-2 of the cheapest items would be purchasable in the first month, more expensive items would require saving for. Vendor should have new items added on a regular basis (quarterly or with each new episode). This would also carry cross-faction styles, and possibly also exclusive base items. It would also function as a cash sink to more than compensate for reduced broker fees
• 1 free daily stabilizer in addition to those earned by running the duo
• 1 free weekly booster box (when they’re available)
• Promethium Lockbox Access (as it is now)
• 20% Marketplace discount
• Reduced crafting costs (20%?) - this is beyond game-wide adjustments
• 10% broker fee discount

Premium

• 5/10/20k cash cap based on spending milestones
• Stabilizer duo adjusted to match subscribers (no free stabilizer, though!)
• Promethium Lockbox access
• Marketplace discount - variable rate based on total cash spent - range is 5-15%

Free

• working as intended (no changes)

Hmmm...

1. Legendary members should have the costume creator styles permanently unlocked account wide.

2. Legendary members should get 2 deeds and 2 armories per character to start with.

3. Legendary members should be able to create Alpha and Beta Mods for free.

4. Legendary members should be not be locked out of purchasing episodes/powers they do not own.

5. Legendary members should receive a cache of 30 random Nth Metal and Catalysts a month.

6. Legendary members should be able to choose 2 items from the reward drop list and the reward drop list should be 2 items longer for Legendary members across the game.

7. Legendary members should be able to replay alerts and events twice before having to use a replay badge and replays should be half price for Legendary members.

8. Legendary members should receive 6 stabilizers a month.

9. Legendary members should have free travel to their base(s) and HQ(s).

10. Legendary members should get 50% off (for a limited time) when a new item is put into the Marketplace.


Ok, there is my wall of text. I will go duck and cover now...

I like the subscriber benefits you have here. Like, all of them lol.

Not too hot on a few of the Premium suggestions but I won't touch those here as it would be off topic and there has already been enough of that in this thread.

Replays for all instances should be the same.
87 replays for a raid is ridiculous. They take just as long as an alert or a duo.
Lowering replays will give the 150 replay badges & 500 DB cash for subs a better value along with making more replay sales across the board.


Premium accounts caps need to be bumped up with every episode purchase up to being totally unlocked if they own all of the content.

Not sure where I said anything about replays, however I would not be opposed to them lowering it even though I currently don't have a problem with the 87 replays for a raid. I believe the price has more to do with the rewards received from the content than the length. Like a duo typically give 2 while a raid gives around 8.

You didn't. That is something that I have always thought was way off the DCUO customers price point.

Most people don't have 3.50 per replay. Today's blue collar worker makes about as much as they were making 25-30 years ago.
Back in the day ( 70's & 80's ) kids would easily drop 20.00 on a weekend at an arcade with money that they saved from lunch money & allowance. All those transactions were .25 cents. DCUO could get people to spend more by lowering their prices to match their average customers price point not the whales.

Ah okay, I see what you are saying. I'm never going to disagree with lowering prices but I highly doubt that we will get that.

Best bet is to wait until they have them on sale. Do they still occasionally put replays on sale? I know they used to but again I have only been back a couple months from a two year hiatus.

Agrecian

The claim in OP is that raising the cap of premium will result in people dropping their sub. The argument is postulated on a ridiculous clam and if something needs to be proven here, its this claim.

I dont need to prove anything here, except give a grounded no bulsheet explanation of what the effect will be on the game. Im a legendary, always have been a and always will be, I cant stand premium because its so limiting, so in essence this proposed change by premiums doesnt affect me in any negative way, but if it helps them even a tiny bit, I cant be so effin self absorbed to cry foul and pretend my benefits are devaluated as a result of raising the cash cap by tiny bit.

The effect of it will be that premiums can actually buy themselves some R&D components without bothering anyone else to buy it for them and repair their gear in one go, instead of having to wait for them to do it piece by piece and selling all sorts of trash components after each piece of gear is repaired. That saves me and everyone else some time. How does this devaluate your 15$ legendary benefits? That will force people to drop their sub? Get real. It certainly doesn't devaluate my 15$ nor I think I will deserve something added to my legendary for such a minuscule added benefit to premiums and I most certainly wont drop my sub for a 20k limit because that amount is peanuts in this game and well .. im not crazy.

If you want to argue that the 15$ a month isnt good value for Legendary, go ahead, in fact I might agree with you, but do it so without exaggerating the effects it will have on legendary members and crying foul how a small increase in cash cap for premiums will result in players dropping their subs.

1 Reduce time for lockbox to drop
2 change the weapon lockbox style to account bound , not char bound
3 free 1 style unlock per month sub -

For 1 and 2, what happens when a player drops legendary? (And what happens when Daybreak does one of their free legendary for past subscribers months, like they just did.)
I'm not sure that I understand 4, other than maybe being able to buy an episode on sale while you're legendary?