Nerf me Good !!!! Please

my highest level achieved without a boost is 95 thank you ^_^ no point in boosting that one.. ive focused more on lower tier content making many alts and the new players find it refreshing when they are relevant to content in my experience .

Repeat business and new customers

That's it. That's where all the focus needs to be yet the op nailed it. We high teir players wreck low tiers causing new players with zero tutorials to zip by to end game never learning anything. No fun at all for so many players trying to see what they paid for.

Sad

I recently tried blade and soul a few months back. Game taught ya how to do everything. When u learned a new power it would take u to a NPC that would tell ya what the skill or power is and how to use it then have to attack some dummies to use it in combat. IIRC u couldnt proceed until u finish doing what that npc tells ya.

I am not criticizing where u are in the game. My point is if u are only 100 or 95cr then u havent played half the game. So let me make a statement and then ask a few questions. Like i said before there are many players at end game or close to end game who struggle with multiple things. Like playing support, 1234 AMs, and just a general understanding of the game. If u clamped those people the content will most likely be harder for them. Do u think they would find that fun? Do u think it would help them learn and get better?

I agree with this thought, that the devs and the powers that be need to do what is best for the game to survive. I also think that they need to create a better experience for all players so that people want to log in and play.

I don't agree with "how" you think the devs should do this, partly because I don't think it's "truly" accurate and the rest is because it will also cause paying customers to leave (and than you have to hope you have enough "new blood" coming in and spending to make up for the leaving portion).

While we've seen many threads over the years asking for a way to stop high CR's from messing with content, we've had many threads stating when folks left or complained because high CRs weren't around to do things quickly. It's a cycle but their is no proof, at least that I know of that show cases which side has the "higher population".

They would be better off retaining new players if they went back and reworked the benefits for both legendary and premium.

Not twisting it at all. If he wants marks this is also being proposed with an invested self interest.

Besides no one is against options but if you want to come in here and start talking mandatory stat clamping...

The problem with census data (at our end at the very least) we can only guess why they chose to leave.

Some may have stopped because they tried it and didn't like it. Others might have played as far as they could get for free and than saw the options of playing and chose to leave. Premium members could have left because they felt like they weren't valued enough... the list could go on.

They had to adjust the tutorial in the beginning because folks were having issues, none of us saw that coming. There are so many different scenarios that could exist, that are possibly "unfathomable" for us (like the tutorial "being too hard" was) and since none of us has that data we can't really use it to "justify" either side. Rather we should try to figure out what's best for the existing player base, which if it dies and you don't get new blood than you have no player base and servers go down.

that's your assumption and i stated in the beginning for it to be an option ..

can you tell me how this will benefit me and only me ?

I'm sure that the game loses more players due to inability to complete an instance like Dox, Throne, T4 inner, or Lock down,at level, than it does from players being carried.

An overabundance in marks starts to affect other areas of the game and progression.

If this is about helping the community why do you need reward?

And every time this topic gets brought up people say give extra marks for running content clamped. If the reason people want the content clamped is so they can experience it at level and not have everything killed right away by higher cr players then u shouldnt want/need extra marks. The people who ran new content at level didnt get extra marks or rewards. And again if the reason is so everything is not killed fast then the rewards shouldnt matter. The experience of running it at level is why people have asked for old content to be clamped.

Exactly right. There should be no extra marks. This is why this entire idea is flawed. People dont really want it because they want the experience of running the content at level, they want extra rewards.

Did the people who ran the content at level when it was brand new get extra marks or rewards? Did they get anything extra for doing the feats at level? Nope. So why should others? Someone will say its the incentive to get people to go back and run old content clamped. Well again if the experience is whats being asked for and helping new players learn then extra rewards shouldnt be needed. All this silliness just needs to stop.

No thanks - on mandatory clamping / CR adjusting.

I'm open to OPTIONAL clamping but it'd be a rare day when I'd use even that.

I have plenty of content to struggle at being CR 190. DWF is still a challenge, OLY R can be a struggle with last boss at times (still seeing players not block at the skull).

BBS last boss can be a pain, still.

GOM R can be a challenge.

GOME and OLY E (especially LB OLY E) is challenging.

I have almost ZERO desire to go back to struggling in Nexus raid, Paradox or any other lower content. Been there, done that. Learned the mechanics and don't want to relive it.



Bill Murray can go fly a kite.

I don't believe in giving extra marks for running stat clamped content either but i do want something done to make the older content more relevant purely for those new player who do want to grind the feats and also any older ones that may be missing a style or two , if that meant stat clamped instances with no reward for players over the CR requirements then i am OK with that.

I personally have no problem running lower tier content for people that need it genuinely for no reward , I've got the feats , styles and I don't need the marks from lower content myself , that just pure greed and we'll end up with high CR guys burning through stuff in minutes meaning people still won't learn the game , plus i would enjoy just running old stuff at it's original level just for nostalgic reasons.

Not sure how they can incorporate that without some kind of reward but i's love to see it none the less.

If the Orignal Poster is on 95-100 Cr and feels OP, Lol invite them to some higher tiers and then comeback.

and replay badges dont .... it is a game you should be rewarded for completing something at its level ...

and its about encouraging higher end players to play with lower cr players ...

yes because older content was so easy back before other tires opened up ^_^ the good days

Because the community is greedy and want a reward for everything they do. Look at the people whining about skill points being handed out. Half of the high sp people wouldn't be complaining if they got something out of it. Look at the people crying about the cost reduction on vendor gear coming next update, saying it doesn't help them because they don't use alts. People want everything they do to benefit them in some way. If you think they're going to willingly que up stat clamped because they "love the community and want to help it learn and grow", you're lying to yourself. These guys don't care. As long as they can face roll and get out.

For the record - I blind queue almost daily - the lower end raids. I try to get through most of them in a week but never spend replays on them.

The only ones I don't blind queue into are UM, BBS, BN, BD and maybe 1 or 2 others.

When I do this, I STAY with the raid party - whether I'm on my Troller or Tank. If I'm tanking I'll naturally try to sprint ahead to grab adds and attempt to get into position to manage the bosses so they don't slaughter any lower CRs.

I cannot do anything about the higher CRs that rush ahead...have tried the tells, the group chat "please slow down", etc, etc, etc. Don't work.

If a higher CR is in lower content and simply choose to rush through it there is little to stop them besides organizing a kick.

The encouraging thing is that I'm seeing less and less of the rushers. I've been noticing this trend for several months now. I'm seeing more and more Higher CRs staying with the raid party and reviving - which is good.

Maybe they're reading the forums.

I was running on my lower gadget alt yesterday, and when I went in duos, I got paired with a 155 cr person in the supply lines instance that could have easily just blasted through everything effortlessly, but they actually stood back half the time and let me kill things, it was cool.