I went to look for JEEBIES guide and could not find it post a link. @JEEBIE didn't you start the bashing by misquoting and being rude to Benaiah. No one on these forums truly searches for discussions it's more like bashing people over the head with their opinions and getting upset when people disagree. I don't use guides myself because I like to discover the power myself my loadouts are always different from the forum guides. I have been beat one time on the scoreboard with my celestial and I run with cr 101 powers all the time. So when I hear a Celestial DPS that gets beat by HL or any other power than celestial it makes wonder if they know how to play a celestial. Also JEEBIE proved Benaiahs point by saying he only gets beat by precision based powers so why shouldn't the powers be more balanced? It should be the player not the power.