Work In Progress Mid-Year Development Update: Announcing Large Content Releases, Open Episodes, and Summer Plans

Discussion in 'Concluded' started by Mepps, Jul 5, 2016.

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  1. Torikumu 10000 Post Club


    Progression and the business model limits the diversity of content. Not the fact we get new stuff to do every month.

    The developers MUST release a raid or alert every month and that content MUST drop the best gear. The Solo/Duo can't be anything special because it devalues the Raid/Alert and that's why monthly content sucks.

    Content must be beatable so that players can get their loot and be enticed into replaying it. This means that when you figure out the content, as many of us already have with the new Alert, it becomes protocol and repetative with the only challenging being trying to beat the obnoxious RNG loot system.

    All of these are problems with the business model and progression. They have nothing to do with the fact we get monthly content. I'd personally rather have something new to play every month, with a revised business model and progression system than spend 8 months out of 12 tapping my watch, waiting for the next batch of content, watching my friends get bored and leave the game.

    Like I say, it ultimately hinges on how they are looking to improve the progression system. They have a track record of consistently failing to deliver on improvements to progression with non-solutions like "Bad Luck Limiter" and other nonsense that didn't fix anything. So unless they've got something major up their sleeves, then expect history to repeat itself. Oh but it'll be cool because of all the open world content we can now do yay!...
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  2. Norwegian ninja Well-Known Player


    well done
  3. Lord Jareth Steadfast Player

    with the early leveling those are combines to feats we players still be able to go back and do the side quest for the feats or no?
  4. Jacob Dragonhunter Steadfast Player


    That right there is a problem.
    You compare Amazon fury part 2 to any of the monthly Episodes, Pretty much the vast majority of players on the forums agreed Amazon fury 2 was better.


    With the 3 month cycle I had more to do, more reasons to log in, I had Dailies, Solo's, Duo's, Multiple Alerts, and Multiple raids.


    Monthly content erased all of that variety from me being able to pick. Now it's mostly Raids being shoved down my throat with a Duo.


    You can say it's not a rat-race for you. But the People who Rush to End-game with Low Skillpoints speak for the matter it's self.
    People spammed RB and Gear chased to reach top cr as fast as possible, this is what hurt the 3 month cycle.

    Overtime People demanded more content more faster, so they tried with the monthly cycle system we had from 2015-2016.

    It flopped Even worse in comparison. Unless you had Replay badges, you had no relevant content to run that would keep you logged in.
    Monthly content has been so buggy, and unpolished it's not even funny anymore.


    Yes, but the Rat-race came much more complained about and much more Apparent after GU 47+Monthly content cycle.

    To me Monthly was just " Hey let's recolor the maps and npcs, and call it new"

    That got tiring real fast.
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  5. bareheiny 10000 Post Club

    DLC content: Done and dusted within a week or three, run to the forums to complain that there's nothing to do.

    Monthly content: Probably done and dusted in a week, but run to the forums to complain about the recycled environments, too easy content and how DLC was better.



    Monthly or DLC content, my guess (and who are we kidding, it's more of a fact than a guess) is that folk will continue to flock to the forums to complain about stuff.
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  6. MrMigraine Devoted Player


    Oh, I'm eternally hopeful. Blue Lantern at heart. :D

    But the way this community acts sometimes when they don't get what they think they have been 'promised' or when something takes longer than was 'promised' -- well, it drives me up the wall. Why? Because those of us who pay attention know that the devs don't make those kinds of promises. They give us nebulous estimates for a very good reason: it's because [expletive] happens.

    So I really just wanted to have this thread bookmarked for future scoldings. ;)
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  7. Dragon1576 Active Player

    One thing i like about this change is at least i won't have to remod my gear every month
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  8. Mr. Awesome Well-Known Player

    I didn't have a knee jerk negative reaction with any of these changes... which is a vast improvement compared to the past year
  9. Ascended Well-Known Player

    Wow. Lot to take in. Okay, you want some feedback?

    No more monthly content? Okay, fair enough. I liked the constant additions, but I can see how it'd be rough on both the players and dev team. Honestly saw this one coming. Not super thrilled about it, but I suppose its better than rushed and half-***** content.

    Alternate progression? I'm looking forward to this one, but would it have killed you guys to give us an idea of what you're considering and been looking at? A simple "We're not sure yet, but some of the stuff we've talked about is X, Y, and Z." would have been nice. This cant get here fast enough. If nothing else a little variety in the leveling process with be nice, even if it turns out to be a feature I dont use often. Not thrilled to hear about the wait just to "get a taste." If it takes half a year just to get a taste, how much longer to see it actually implemented?

    Water powers. Sorry guys, tired of the wait. Want them now. NOW. We were suppose to have three powers in 2015. Between 2015 and now we've only gained.....two? Is that right? Dont want BS, dont want excuses. I want my god damn Water powers.

    Style and gear unlocking. You have no idea how much I have been anticipating not having to farm a single T2 instance for style drops day and week after day and week. Not pleased with the news here, I'd like to see this sort of thing moved up the priority list. You want alternate progression? Not having to grind low level crap for a style means more time doing at-cr stuff.

    Looking forward to the new PvP stuff. And just in time for the movie. If nothing else, you guys are hitting that cross-media note really well; from the Bombshells stuff to the BvS stuff......Im very much down for this.

    Not a fan of going six months or so without anything other than seasonals, and I cannot imagine its good for business. But whatever. Honestly not the worst news today.

    All the rest? Fairly ambivalent about it.

    Pretty mixed clump of news.
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  10. Lionxoft Committed Player

    Months of nothing? Check. Plenty of cancellations and development delays? Check. Just another day at Daybreak, eh? This letter did the exact opposite of your intention. This is frustrating.
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  11. light FX Steadfast Player

    Like u said he didnt say we are going back to 3 month dlcs but it is implied and a lot of people requested it. So id say its safe to assume that is whats happening but it could be incorrect. What i dont get,like ive said in other threads, is how they expect people to stay subbed for 6 months with no new content. I see some saying seasonals and SM. U dont need to sub to run that content or pvp. So why again would people sub?

    Personally for me if water had gone live plus 1 other feature that was announced for 2016 i would of stayed. Water+style unlocking or water+statsmatter or water+alternate progression system. But because all of that is delayed til 2017 or later for me there is literally nothing to do til the start of 2017. And even then there is no specific date for when anything will happen. End of the year/start of next year could be nov/dec or it could be feb/march. There is no date for water, alternate progression, style/gear unlocking, statsmatter, midrange/wpns or ep27. And for me the longer im away from the game the harder it will be to come back. Because i could find another game that i really get into and like a lot. Which atm that game was dcuo and is the reason i really dont play any other games. Occasionally i try and play other games, but dcuo is my main. If i find another main then again its gonna be hard to get me to come back to dcuo. And i know for a fact im not the only player doing things that way and thinking that way. So a 6 month or longer break pretty much means im done with dcuo after ep26.
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  12. Helios The Eternal Flame Dedicated Player

    A little late to the party,.......but I don't have a problem with these changes. A sacrifice is not a sacrifice, unless its a sacrifice. We do, indeed, need to go back to the previous 3 month cycles. There would most likely never be anymore open world content for those that like that type of content if we don't. Now, I don't want to wait 4 months or more for episode 27, BUT, when Amazon Fury part 1 dropped, all we got was : 1 easy Alert, 2 duos,....and open world stuff,...and we had to stretch that for 3 months. Mind you, there was no Survival Mode at that point. I am willing to do it. I think we can do it.

    All I can say is : Thank You. We need to weigh to lesser of the two evils. I prefer better, more robust content, where the Devs are not rushed to put out something. They need to take their time and do it right. Monthly content was a nice experiment. Nevertheless, if something is clearly not working or is simply mediocre, I prefer the Dev's adjust, and not allow us to settle for mediocrity. I look forward to this.
  13. ozzy1111 Dedicated Player



    NO...NO...NOOOOO!!!!!
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  14. Helios The Eternal Flame Dedicated Player

    ^ What he said......NO!!!!!
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  15. ThePhilosophy Loyal Player

    Seriously, what a breath of fresh air.
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  17. SigmaAtom Committed Player



    Light.. agree 100% with u. defo..

    however.. I hear they had a major dev leave.. possibly why all the delays.

    now they are doing it old style.. which personally im not looking forward to.. they can schedule and test the content better.

    The #statsmatter is coming.. so I *imagine*.. i admit i don't know.. but i think we *might*.. see older vet players coming back, coz the cr clamping/differential thing was an affront to an MMORPG.
  18. ozzy1111 Dedicated Player

    not sure how I did that...lol^^^
  19. Ully Committed Player

    I like the monthly content. I remember the older days when the forums where packed with "End the 3month cycle" type of threads....:rolleyes:
    I guess we've gone full circle. I give it 6 months after the initial release of episode 27 when serious complaints start again.
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  20. ozzy1111 Dedicated Player

    lets hope. we shal see.
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