MAKE SKILL POINTS A REQUIREMENT FOR ELITE ALERTS/RAIDS

Its people like the OP that are clueless and proud about not knowing how DCUO functions that end up causing issues when there were not any issues in the first place. SP has never been an issue to the players that know how to play the game.

The time capsoles represent a very small portion of the games feat i hate time capsoles as much as anyone i dont buy stabalizers yet i have the feats via in game currency.
I dont think there should be a skill point requirement for raids i also dont think there should be a cr requirement for raids because for 1 it doesnt represent skill, and 2 i want to be able to walk my low level alts into end tier content like back in the day get level 30 get walked through the fos's\gates\prime \whatever have near top cr if drops are favorable.

Cr requirement are only here so we dont fast level alts like we did back in the day so were forced to spend replay if we want alts geared fast
I played devils advocate for a reason its because an sp requirement for raids is just as much nonsense as a cr requirement. I say this because back in the days we went into raids with all sorts of cr levels and beat them batcaves, fos's, ect

If this was implemented then I'd be unable to do the elites even though currently I have done them 100s of times at this point, have all the feats, renown full, etc. Leave elite as it is. If people are confident enough to go in then let em. If they fail miserably then oh well, failure is a part of life, its how you grow. Besides if a noob hits 200 sp from just grinding stuff then he'll go in thinking he's good and get demolished lol. and trust me, I've seen some noobs with high sp, its crazy, idk how they have so much are that trash but man is some of those cases bad.

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A mi me parece buena idea.
Exepto ese rango alto aunque yo ya habia propuesto algo.


Instancias elites por episodio debe tener el minimo cr requerido de episodio y estara conectado al cr nesecitado del siguiente episodio.

Todo iniciaria desde t5 donde se excluiria el requisito de tener equipado las 10 piezas elites frecuentes.

El rango minimo requerido de sp comensaria con 30, que es lo que cualquiera desbloquea sin proponerselo, ya de ahi en t6, t7, t8 y las que sigan iran cambiando segun dificultad instancia.

Yo no soy jugador de raids o grupales 4 y menos version elite, las unicas ocaciones que hice elite fue por que nesecite marcas victorias y cuando me cayo una pieza elite me percate que ademas de nivel bajo a lo que ya tenia equipado tambien atributos, me percate que en el vendedor se compraban mejores piezas, incluso en otras instancias caen mejores piezas y para colmo, la dificultad de elite se sintio pesada, no por la instancia por los jugadores que entran con requisitos minimos y sin mods sinteticos o mods exos y de los pocos que entran con mods sin desbloquear el bonus de armadura.

Por lo cual yo propuse armadura elite ya sea frecuente, rara, epica o cualquier otra de caida instancia nivel de armadura minima otorgada de todo el episodio(osea en cr sera el mas bajo de todas las instancias del episodio), pero en atributos las piezas de caidas frecuente devera tener la maxima otorgada por el episodio (con lo cual sera el requisito minimo necesario de elites del siguiente episodio).
Lo que significaria que las de caodas raras y epicas por asi decirlo tendrian mas atributos haciendolas aptas para categoria requisito recomendado y superior del siguiente elite episodio).

Requisitos elites; exepto t5 que seria el inicio de obtencion piezas elites.

Cr minimo requerido+sp30+las 10piezas elites equipadas+mods sinteticos o mods exos+bonus debloqueado de las 10 piezas.

Por lo tanto, antes de poder entrar devera estar equipado con elite si no lo esta y entra sera expulsado de instancia, si entran con equipo elite seran asegurados a modo que no cambien por otras piezas que no son elite pve.

Y esto iria dirigido a jugadores determinado que si disfrutan y entienden la dinamica de la instancia.

Donde no se finalisa como las demas a base de fuerza bruta por exeso de cr permitido en instancia.

A pocas palabras elites seran el vip, para jugadores veteranos de pago y jugadores que les gustan instancias dificiles sin exeso de cr exedido.

Por lo que digo es buena tu idea, a darle el valor que se merece una elite.

.... There are so many flawed things with what you're saying... I'm tryin to figure out where to start.

In the beginning of the game (which is what you're referring to) I'm pretty sure that their were CR requirements.... by the time Gates came out their was... they might have called it or referred to it as something else (it's been so long I really can't remember) but at the end of the day it's still your gear score that hasn't changed. Also, know one was beating FoS raids back there in whatever gear they wanted... If you went in there wearing T1 gear you would die.... this is fact (and this was even before the CR differential). So while folks did run things back in the day with different CRs the it's not too far off from what it is like today.. you still needed to meet the requirements to get in.

They took away walk ins (and that was way after the CR differential was implemented) to make people not fast level alts, and walk ins were the only way you could actually by pass the queue system (because you couldn't just queue up if folks didn't make the cut but you could walk in and take them).

I get that you're trying to play devil's advocate but it doesn't help your case of trying when you're presenting folks with flawed information. You always had to be a certain gear level to do anything in the queue system since this game began.... only walks in were a way to bypass that.... and again you could only use that as a way to successfully bypass it if you had enough strong people to carry you.

What?

1) Bad idea. Cr ánd skillpoints as a requirement cannot be a valid requirement.
2) Why is this in testing feedback? There is a general discussion forum for this.

If you're out dpsing any dps, you are running with some very very bad players.

That has everything to do with actual skill and nothing to do with skill points.

I gotta say not a good idea an this is coming from a 291sp player
For all of you going on about Sp don't matter an they are so good with 50 sp
I laugh an have probably out healed your healer as a tank or out Dps your Dps as atomic tank.
If you put same power against same power with same mods but other player has 200+ sp more an same skill of game play an they will absolutely destroy them in their role, Healing, Troll, Tank or Dps. Those are facts an we have all seen it done time an time again.
Just go through your skill trees an add up the extra stats for your role, it's almost as much as modding your gear with 8's or oly mods.

I just don't know why players keep on saying how great they are with around 50Sp, the only ones that believe that are those players.
This content an the powers are so dumb down that yes you can complete the content with low Sp but the skilled players with high Sp will out perform them, have seen it done 100's of times.

Yes it does, as a tank I am spec as tank an Dps with this many Sp. With Atomic it's not hard to do big damage as tank. I have a guy in my league that is also Atomic and runs my rotation but only does about half the damage I do because of his Sp. We have Tanked GOM together and have same healing out but my damage is at least twice to three times his every time.

Cr. Mods. Buffs. How he actually does his skill points. Might Buffs in the group.

1 Cr higher then I was last time we ran. Mods are different because I can run might an dom but have same dom as him, with him modding all dom in his blues. This is because of Sp. The reason why I do that damage is because of stats from Sp

Cr 1 higher then me
Might was around 1,000 less then me
Dom the same.
All of this was because of SP.
Yes Sp makes a huge difference.
For instance I can fully spec tank with movement mastery for power back and Dps spec, crits, might, now if the troll goes down I can keep myself alive with power back. That is one trick I use to solo RITE to get friends the fire dancer feat, because I can solo the whole Alert with power back but do great damage as a Tank.....all because of SP

I'm sorry but if he's 1 cr higher than you and all you have is 1000 more might and he's getting doubled in tripled in damage. Uh yeah, that's his sp being messed up and his rotation being messed up. A damage difference yes, but as the same power you don't get doubled/tripled. That sounds like he doesn't even have his sp in crits while you do and his rotation is different than yours.

No because he cant spec tank and Dps like me because he does not have enough SP
When he specs Tank, thats all he can spec. I can get the 75 extra might out of bottom of tree along with my Dom.

Say 200 Sp player thats missing about 88 dom but in tank role 176 dom and 900 might when compared to 291 from Sp only just from bottom row in tree not to mention the stats getting to that bottom tree.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
Not all players need this, they can enjoy all the content in the game with 80SP but there is no comparison to a skilled 264+ SP player that is fully spec for there role.
This is why I am also against this SP requirement for getting into raids because you don't need them but they seriously increase your characters performance.

Sure xD I know tanks that can spec for both with 150-200sp. Save clip on both of your parses on a sparring target and see what the difference actually is lol

Horrible idea.

Why? None of the recently released elite content is actually elite. Phantom zone elite alert and DWFe were the last 2 pieces of elite content that actually felt elite. OLYe and GoMe are not challenging at all. And ive personally witnessed some players that have a ton of SP who are simply not very good players. So what would the sp requirement accomplish?