"LFG" NEED DPS FOR L&WNO ICE DPS PLEASE

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Rankkor, Dec 10, 2014.

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  1. Sardik New Player

    It's not a competition to see which one is the worst "AM", but if it were Ice would have no chance against Mental.
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  2. Kimone Luthor Genetech Clone


    I think this is less about the blocking and more about being able to use that as a scapegoat statement for removing a wildly exploitable oversight before it makes it into the game as a proper update. I already fight in L&W with a character who uses a twohanded sword *as a WM combo starter and not because of the Clip exploit*. Hammer Throw - > Arrow Storm may have decent damage output for a two-button combo (not really but supposedly that's getting fixed in this update) but it is NOT fast. You get used to stopping what you're doing and if you get stuck in the middle of something, you get hit.

    What I'm NOT doing is complaining about the fact that I have to use the short Burst Ranged WM Combo instead of getting up close and using the vastly more favorable Heavy Ranged Combo - if I nail all my Crits, I can make the Home Run - > Flurry Shot chain do about 45K, BEFORE the WM Burst Ability Use at the end, also no counting anything I got back from Menace in that time. That's 'no buffs, no trinket'.

    That's a lot of damage to be out just because I'm fighting a Raid Boss that will one-shot my DPS *** with a Melee attack if I get that close. But I realize that if you're going for big numbers, there should be risk involved, and doing something suicidal should get me killed. Complaining because you can't use a full AM chain on one Boss at the expense of breaking the game by including a severely abusable power into an arguably strong powerset seems... whiny, to be frank.
  3. Rammy Well-Known Player

    Your actually right, that isn't insane damage with nature. Harvest refreshes dots. The damage the actual hit does is pretty low. Please at least learn about what you try to get nerfed.



    The patch notes say empowered channeling doesn't work for the AM moves. The problem isn't in it being interrupted but not being cancelable. The way it was canceled on test was being used to ignore any dovetail.
  4. Kimone Luthor Genetech Clone


    Well, if you're cancelling it and still getting damage out of it, congratulations, it's an exploit.
  5. Aces Up Well-Known Player

    The panic is really not necessary.

    You CAN block out of Arctic Gust/Avalanche. Did it all day on the test server yesterday and mentioned it several times in the first thread panicking about not being able to block.

    You CAN block to cancel both cast powers, just can't attack. Don't panic.

    DPS wise, again you'll be more than fine. Ice is still kicking the butt of most powers.
    So, relax and enjoy.
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  6. same Johnny Dedicated Player

    Whoever refuses to take an Ice DPS after this update is a fool.
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  7. Aces Up Well-Known Player

    Especially considering the basis of this conversation isn't even true.
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  8. Rankkor New Player

    Yeah ok whiny ....two channel moves two make dam out....others are there for chill affect and barely due damage so full rotation? Your acting as if i use thus am i have more then two moves ....all which get me killed i use at the last boss of L&W ....and whut one person does in a loadout skillful or not doesnt mean he will get accepted in the raid group ....majority of players wont except ice dps due to not being able too survive ....plain and simple...survive and put up goid numbers...is the key ...and dont try to say anything about scorecard chasing or being top dps ....if you run with majority of ppl if your dieing alot and result ur not putting up good numbers ,you will be kicked ....stop me when i lie
  9. FESTER665 Devoted Player

    My favorite part of running with the league....

    "Who wants to run L&W ?!?!?"

    There's my chat box, I could care less what powers people are and we get through it just fine.
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  10. Rankkor New Player


    That sounds cool but unless i see it in GU notes then blocking out of it is reverted...meaning not hitting live ....meaning my post originally is spot on ...and thank you for all who try to bend what im saying into something im not ....

    After all it wouldn't be dc if it didnt have players like that in it ....cheers
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  11. Aces Up Well-Known Player

    There has never been a single moment on the test server when Ice's channeled powers could not be interrupted. Not one. Not sure how much clearer I can be.

    And here I thought I was delivering good news. I'm so sorry I mentioned it. Please, continue with your illusions.
  12. yssandra Active Player

    yeah i know that i was going for this part:
    but thanks for proving my point :p
  13. spack2k Steadfast Player

    all i can read is : "thx for not to be able to exploit ice AM"
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  14. Solarverse2 New Player

    Sooo....the moral of the story is, don't play DPS ice because it can no longer be clipped like all the other DPS abilities? I don't play Test server, but correct me if I am wrong, did the Devs not say clipping was completely okay and working as intended? Or are we talking about a completely different issue?
  15. ThatGuyLee Committed Player

    you could just play ice the old way.....thats always an option
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  16. Rasta Committed Player

    If only there was a place for every DCUO player to go when they want to have a constructive conversation...
  17. Nemeses Prime Dedicated Player

    SO..... Ice player can block when they are casting Artic Gust and Avalanche or not? Fire has a similar attack with Flame Cascade. I think if you can block and cancel the animation, why is the problem? Sorry, but I understand an atttack to cancel can be a exploit, but a block, I can't see in this way. If you can block, it's good, you will not die easy.

    When I am doin L&W as Fire DPS using AM, I don't do FC, I do just MD, and I can jump cancel and pressa block. If you aren't able to block when do FC, Artic Gust and Avalanche, why not do a Jump Canel too?

    I can't play in test server, so I can't say anything to help until i go to my home and download de GU43 to my PS*****3
  18. Solmes202 Loyal Player

    Wow! What a great point! If players learned ...oh....TEAMWORK and focused less on their individual stats this would not be an issue. PVE is supposed to be about working together, not about out pointing a teammate. Want that competition? Go PVP.
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  19. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    there is always the option to spec into defense and health, making it so you can survive carol's "1shot" attack. This really does work. the little bit of prec/might you'd lose will be more than made up for by the fact that you won't need to block can continue attacking through her attack.
  20. Requake Dedicated Player

    Arctic gust is getting removed from empowered channeling as well as another move not sure on the name. Check update notes.
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