Lets Talk Dps Balance

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by CrappyHeals, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. xoHLxDPSox Steadfast Player

    exactly, thats why I wanna play around with hybrid and try to put together a single target burst / DoT mix LO.

    something with thorn burst I think its called in the LO. It'd be a melee / mid-range LO. To where the 1 I'm using right now is mid-range to far. Which is based around wolf form. I also have a dog form LO as well, but dont really like how that 1 plays out (dogs LO)
  2. CrappyHeals Devoted Player

    I'm not a fan of the dog either, it does ok on single target but not so hot on aoe and also now has a delay on its attacks which makes it feel slower then usual when playing it.
  3. The Anxient Loyal Player

    Currently using 3 different armories w/nature as well pftt, a precision heavy wolf build that plays similar to the old 6 dot loadout, and a wm one. Haven't been able to come with a good human form hybrid build, which is sad because I like weapon clipping more than wm.
  4. Iconic Simulation YouTuber

    Lol sit down. You cant disprove that what ive said either and no i wont change my wording...a minor change means a minor change. Jackhammer is a main component for both the tank/dps roles for earth so there wont that significant of a change thus why they said "minor change". Maybe you should run an earth toon so you get the concept and dont sound ignorant.
  5. spack2k Steadfast Player

    A minor change means they will just look over the base damage of the ability and adjust numbers, a major change would be changing the range or the way the ability works in general like eating up power after each pound on the ground rather than after the 3rd or idk whats the case on live atm.
  6. xXHeadlinerXx Dedicated Player

    Well maybe "minor change" means slight change. There have been "minor changes" in the past that were quite significant.
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  7. The Dackman New Player

    Thank you Crappy! I was on test as well and you said perfectly what has been on my mind every time I see a "revamp sucks" comment.
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  8. The Dackman New Player

    Yep lol.
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  9. Proxystar #Perception

    That was exactly what I was talking to Light about last night. Everything you've listed there is what I would call an 'instance variable' and should never be used in parsing or displaying a loadout.

    A loadout/rotation should always be the 'raw potential'.

    What then seperates players on the scorecard isn't the 'optimal rotation' they're using, it's the 'instance variables' and higher stats.

    There is of course skill in using your instance variables as efficiently and as effectively as possible but they're not something you should be displaying in a raw loadout/rotation video or if you do that needs to be considered based upon its own merit.

    The trouble is that even they're inconsistent so one time you use it you might average 15,000/s but then the next time you get it you still only get 11,000/s because of low crits and other variable factors within that specific rotation window.

    Thus making a video of a single rotation using a supercharge can actually be somewhat misleading to the general user.

    What it's also not considering is other supercharges for example is using a 25% a good move when overall 4 of those 25%'s still do less damage than 1 100% supercharge and then again certain supercharges are better in certain circumstances :)
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  10. Sore Steadfast Player

    I go away for 18 months and I'm not sure what changed more, the game or CrappyHeals. ;)
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  11. xoHLxDPSox Steadfast Player

    hes outta hiding lol
  12. CrappyHeals Devoted Player

    Oh man are you making a return cause someone needs to update the nature guide and i vote you haha!!
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  13. CrappyHeals Devoted Player

    Also people need to take into account other variables that others have pointed out. Maybe someone is using their supply drop, trinkets and stuff like that more often and more efficient then someone else. Also buff colas, omegas, skill points, mods, spec all will make a significant difference in your dps.

    People using supply drop trinkets and supers together also will push them ahead farther then someone else especially when used in the right places like on adds. Maybe someone has better positioning them someone else. Did you die, did they die, did they get to the adds before you, did they come in with a full super charge.....there are so many variables to consider in a raid besides just the power, and hey maybe that player is just better then you or you are better then someone else.
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  14. light FX Steadfast Player

    More of this ridiculous sit down crap. I will stand but thanks. Common sense is all im gonna say. Im not the one making a claim about a change that hasnt happened yet when we dont know the details of said change. I have played earth before too. Nice try. Oh if u could please let me know where ya got your crystal ball. Id love to be able to see the future too.
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  15. Iconic Simulation YouTuber

    No crystal ball...funny enough its just common sense and seeing past actions they have taken vs what role that certain power plays in the revamp of that powerset. Just connect the dots and it becomes clear.
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  16. Harlequin Devoted Player

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  17. xoHLxDPSox Steadfast Player

    I know before AMs when you had apply PIs with quantum it had that blue stuff in the belly of enemies and lasted around 6-8 seconds.

    idk if its the same now with quantum. But is the PI running out to soon? Or dropping off all together even?

    I know when AMs were a thing DoTs with nature would drop off in alot of areas of the game for no reason. Could be same thing here.
  18. xoHLxDPSox Steadfast Player

    hell yea, I hit every supply drop dropped ;)

    whats that? the healer dropped a supply across the room? Im casting powers and jumping my way over to that supply drop before casting trinket and SC lmao
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  19. xoHLxDPSox Steadfast Player

    yet I know a sorc DPS that isnt having problems on either sides of the power ;)

    test some more.
  20. Gimpy Loyal Player

    Q is bugged, you can use any PI rotation where the PI keeps getting extended by using a lower cost power and never get the same results

    Use either PI on it's own or together and it's the same thing.

    You can even just spam Inspiral waves and have the same numbers that using a full rotation will give.

    The only consistency you will get with Quantum is .........

    it's inconsistency.