Listen, you REALLY want an even fight? how about we both get the same weapon, powerset, loadout and gear then? And spec and mod exactly the same too while we're at it. No? Then you don't really care for an even fight do you? Besides, I mean I've got soders, you got soders. We both got HT obviously since we're both in lair. And we both have an SC bar. So where's the problem? You want to be a big man and not use the stuff? Go ahead. Beat me? Yes you're the better player (or an ice tank), no contest. But don't tell me what i can or can't use. Soders or ht stuff aren't there to look at and as far as i know, not considered cheating. I'm there for the feats. That means i want wins and considering there's a 1000 to get, i want them fast and as pain free as possible. I'm not there to measure my ******. And seriously like, you're an ice tank and i'm not supposed to use soders or HT? Well maybe you met some DPS that can still beat you without them, and my hats off to them, but i'm not one of those guys. Besides, you're an ice tank in lair battles. You don't get to call me out for tyring to do it the "easy way". If you want clear set of agreed upon rules, go scrimmage someone. If you're queuing for lair, you better be willing to accept anything that comes your way and not call me out on it. I don't have to follow made up rules agreed upon by a minority of hardcore pvpers. No one does. See me in lair? Get your soders and HT stuff ready. Or don't and beat me the clean way. But i'm not gonna apologize for using the stuff. Don't worry, im not gonna go out and brag i beat you after (in the unlikely event i do). I don't give a **** who you are or what your reputation is and I don't care about whatever mine is either. I don't have misplaced pride or an ego to feed. "Just the feats, mam" That is all.