Just my thoughts on stat clamping all content.

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by ObsceneBoy, Jun 8, 2016.

  1. ObsceneBoy Committed Player

    In my opinion, if you blind queue for anything, you get what you're given and shouldn't really complain about higher cr players ruining the content for you. A cr 167 player has just as much right to be in there as the cr 40 player. You agree to this when you blind queue.

    If you don't like this, form you're own group, it's that simple in my eyes.

    I'd also just like to say I'm not for or against stat clamping, I'm kinda on the fence, but for those who still just want to blind queue and complain when they get a higher cr player, maybe add optional stat clamping.
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  2. Giga Vamm Dedicated Player

    magneto should show us how to make groups for lower content. i have always had a hard time doing so.
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  3. GalaxySniper Loyal Player

    No. Ppl was angry when DCUO tried it a year ago
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  4. Sleepy Healer Steadfast Player

    I could get by the optional to clamp. Meaning if you q in everyone clamped not just you. But its not forced you have to agree to clamp yourself
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  5. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player

    I am going to play devil's advocate here.

    Developers should not develop harder content as players are not developing the skill necessary to complete content and rarely run as a balanced 2-2-2-2 group, content such as DWF, because lower CR players are getting carried through content, not learning game mechanics and development of skill needed to complete harder content declines, therefore end game content should be super easy.

    There is my response to that thought of allowing higher CR player to carry lower CR players.

    If the game did not allow this we would have more skilled and qualified players at end game to run DWF.
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  6. Torikumu 10000 Post Club

    I disagree. The game teaches you to run content via the on duty menu, therefore players should be expected to run content as intended by using this method to form groups.

    We've done the whole "form your own group" non-solution suggestion before, too. A few times and videos have been recorded. It's really difficult and time consuming to form a group at the appropriate CR. It isn't a viable solution to the issue.

    The solution really is a simple one, though: If match making is forming your group and you're outside of the content's relevancy window, then you're clamped to the recommended CR. If you don't want to be clamped, you enter the content via a teleporter or "Force Entry" option on the On Duty screen and are free to run it without any restrictions.

    Everybody wins. Nothing changes and new players who are trying to enjoy the game for the first time to decide whether or not they like it are protected from some over-zealous high CR player hunting for a style.
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  7. Derio 15000 Post Club

    Tell that to the new players who only know how to do content my blind queing, only to find their experience ruined. To most new players, that first experience determines if they stay playing the game or quit the game before it even begins.
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  8. BumblingB I got better.

    I love DCUO so, why did this have to get it's own thread?!
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  9. BumblingB I got better.

    They never tried stat clamping, I think you are confusing it with Stat Flattening which is still in effect.
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  10. Drathmor Unwavering Player

    that means nothing and no discussion should be based on this toxic community.

    people here get angry when they give us free stuff and they werent even playing at the time so they dont get it

    there is no pleasing some people.. some things should just be decided by the devs and then implemented for the betterment of the game not to appease complaining children like many on these threads act like
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  11. WilderMidnight Steadfast Player

    i go with the flow.
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  12. Darkerusaelp Devoted Player

    This is a great idea, I mean everyone loved GU47 and the seasonal stat clamping right? Wait a minute... :confused:
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  13. Electrizzaro Loyal Player

    Would it be that hard for the Devs to throw and option in the que to go with less that the recommended number of people? You could throw that option in there so you could que with a group of 1 into content meant for 8. That SHOULD fix the issue of high cr players in low cr content. I mean they made the whole Material thing as a possible one off if the cosmic material failed so why not put some time into fixing this issue.

    Granted there are several other ways to accomplish this and many other suggestions that are good and bad. This just fixes the "Teleporters" issues the Devs say are there when they create walkins. Plus you would not have to clamp anyone.

    Then all you would have to worry about would be the Trolls (not controllers) that would que with the low levels just to ruin the game for them....and we all know this game has NONE of them (cough sarcasm cough)
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  14. Harlequin Devoted Player

    Weird. Clamping did not happen in GU47 and I love the seasonals as they are now. What should I be waiting for?
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  15. MEBegnalsFan Devoted Player

    It also impacts end game as I pointed out, more players learning mechanics and how to play the non-damage role will only improve the quality of players we have at end game. Problem is, due to high CR players running lower content that is not happening.
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  16. Ringz Dedicated Player

    *sigh* Dcuo should just take a page from ffxiv pugging system -walks away-
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  17. Darkerusaelp Devoted Player

    Your right GU47 featured stat flattening. I hardly ever complain about decisions made by our dev team but that one I wasn't a big fan of.
    Also I seem to remember the winter, summer and Halloween seasons being much less fun clamped IMO. Take the summer seasonal for example the adds were hitting so hard you would have thought it was a raid but hey that's just my opinion. I can even understand how some players could find the initial non adjusted stat clamped seasonals to be fun. I just wasn't one of them.
  18. GalaxySniper Loyal Player

    There positive ppl that was against that move. When ppl couldn't solo lower teir raids a lot of ppl was mad. They wanted to be able to teleport to any raids as they choose as walk in. Your a Super Hero getting stronger not getting clamped, and that was the argument for ppl not want to be clamped.
    More ppl will quit this game if it happens. The result of stat clamped was very negative last year by to many player.

    Say toxic all you want. But its the truth
  19. GalaxySniper Loyal Player

    Yea sorry stat flattening. I say majority of ppl will still be against it. Better option is walkin
  20. light FX Steadfast Player

    What i find odd is if there is such a large amount of players this is affecting how come they dont all get together and run content? Oh right i know why, cause its really only affecting a tiny % of players. I blind queue for duos daily. If i get a bad player i leave and requeue, simple. Like u said, i know blind queing im taking a chance on who i get paired with. Yea it seems like im cursed, even my league mates joke about how bad my luck is but whatever. I can easily ask 1 of them or a friend to do the duo with me. Im not against stat clamping either, as long as there is a way around it so i can run unclamped.
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