Hope (Blue Lantern Powerset?)

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by Solarverse, Apr 10, 2016.

  1. willflynne 10000 Post Club



    I've yet to see anything provided by you or anyone else that DC has said that the devs have violated lore. The only one making that claim so far is you.

    Show me where DC has said the devs have broken lore and told them to fix it, and then show me where the devs defied DC's wishes and did what they wanted to. Because right now all I'm seeing is repeated statements from someone who's NOT DC or one of their representatives making those statements and demands.
  2. TheDarknessWithin Loyal Player

    Geez, seriously? Still going on about how Star Sapphires should be healers when like 3 males where chosen for short periods... Pfff. If any Lantern healer is to come in a story lore, it'll be Indigo, nuff said.

    Anyway, we won't be getting Lantern healers until we get Shadow and Serums ;)
  3. Solarverse Committed Player

    Hope. Fixed that for ya. :D
  4. TheDarknessWithin Loyal Player

    Tell me the villain equivalent?

    Orange, no
    Star Sapphire, no
    Indigo, Heroes would have to really **** them off to be full fledged villains.
  5. Solarverse Committed Player

    Black or Blue gone rogue
  6. TheDarknessWithin Loyal Player

    Black is confirmed never too, it is also against all life and villains and is OP. Blue, I don't think there is one scrap of lore of a bad blue lantern.
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  7. Zenith Well-Known Player

    You have to remember that DCUO and DC aren't just the keepers of the lore, but the creators of it.
    If something is created by DCUO and approved by DC, then that becomes part of the DCUO lore.

    Here's one idea,
    Just an example. I'm sure SJ could come up with plenty of more fitting ideas.
    My point being that lore can be changed, it's not some sacred text.;)
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  8. Dack Man Level 30

    I'm 110% on board with a blue lantern power as it's the only power I could imagine switching my beloved celestial to. Unfortunately I'm also 120% sure they won't do it because:
    A. They really don't have a good villain alternative
    B. I believe the Devs have already said they weren't looking at it.
    C. I think the bulk of the community is against the idea of another lantern power.
    But we can always have Hope lol.
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  9. Solarverse Committed Player

    I don't believe the bulk is against it. I do however believe thje bulk can't get on board with which color would be for healing. Blue, Indigo or Star....if everyone could agree...which I personally would never deviate from Hope, I think the majority would be for it. But, since nobody can agree, the majority doesn't really count. :(
  10. Solarverse Committed Player

    However, Black raises the dead...which is in a demented way...healing. As far as lore...lore changes daily, especially in the DC Universe.
  11. TheDarknessWithin Loyal Player

    Now I can agree with that, maybe a villain has to have a hope to accomplish something. Either way, Indigo fits more and it'll be allot better if Indigo allied with Villains and Hope came with Heros. I'm not against colours, I also like Indigos colour.
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  12. MariaTenebre Committed Player



    I didn't say that DC has stated anything. What I have stated is that DC in certain respects is somewhat lenient when people in their mediums violate the lore. However in a medium like this where comic accuracy is stressed they shouldn't be violating lore. I have mentioned instances where they have but on the Star Sapphire point it is sexist and violates lore to make the gear female only.



    It doesn't matter if only a few males were Star Sapphires. The Star Sapphires have never banned men from joining and by the same token the Red Lanterns are mostly villainous but that does not stop the power from being faction neutral in game. Men can join and to me the Star Sapphires are the only ones that make sense as they are faction neutral and gender neutral. Indigos are pretty heroic as their rings flood them with Compassion and make them heroic. Besides I would not make another Lantern character if the power is Indigo. I have no interest in them I will only make another Lantern character if the healer power is Blue Lantern or Star Sapphire.


    The villain equivalent could be Orange. They could make a story that say Lex Luthor stole some Orange rings and spread them around as he already took an Orange Ring for himself.

    However to me Star Sapphire power is the best option and it should be faction and gender neutral and males should get iconic Star Sapphire armor.



    Indigos are heroic it wouldn't make sense to have an Indigo villain anymore then a Black Lantern hero.
  13. Kimone Luthor Genetech Clone

    this is great...

    Maria's hijacked the thread about Blue Lanterns to talk about Star Sapphires again... I wonder if we can get someone in here to complain about the scoreboard too...
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  14. willflynne 10000 Post Club


    You see it as a lore violation. But if DC is being lenient and allowing things, then at the very least it hints that, to DC, it doesn't violate the lore.
  15. Zenith Well-Known Player

    Exactly. :)
    Being a villain can range from theft to genocide, from Catwoman to Darkseid.
    Indigo would be cool too.
  16. willflynne 10000 Post Club



    Score....board?? What is this scoreboard you speak of?

    Oh, is it that thing that pops up at the end of instances? I just ignore that thing and hit ESC to get out of it.


    Couldn't resist. :p:D
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  17. MariaTenebre Committed Player



    Actually no because what matters if it violates lore is if it gels to the comics and again DC is lenient on somethings violating lore. However in a game like this where accuracy to the comics matters they should be more stringent against this.


    I wouldn't say Catwoman is a villain. Yes she does sometimes more morally questionable things but she is more of an anti heroine. She is a thief for instance but she is shown with a heroic side as well.
  18. Rockhound665 Steadfast Player

    By bunch you're meaning 2?(Hard Light consists of Green and Yellow but they're basically the same powers and Rage)
  19. Zenith Well-Known Player

    Very true, and that's really the point. There are plenty of characters that have engaged in criminal activity and would be classed as villain, but aren't actually evil.

    On the subject of lore, remember that DCUO has it's own mythology, separate from DC Comics.
    Adherence to events outside of DCUO isn't required, and male Star Sapphires haven't happened in DCUO.
    That doesn't indicate that the devs are against the idea, just that it's simply not part of the story.

    I'm all for styles being worn by both genders though.
  20. willflynne 10000 Post Club


    So anything that doesn't slavishly follow your own (in my opinion) narrow version of what is and isn't DC lore is a violation of that lore? Never mind that DC may approve it fully, or that it may be set in an Elseworlds/multiverse/alternate reality version of the DC universe, it must be a 100% accurate reflection of what you see as lore.

    That's just silly.

    Beyond the fact that you aren't the one who actually gets to determine what is and isn't lore (and a violation of that lore), that kind of thinking usually ends up stifling any creative attempts at working within a particular fictional universe. Some of the most interesting stories to come out of comics have involved "what if?" storytelling or a willingness to push outside former boundaries, and more than a few "what if?" stories have ended up being used in the regular comics canon.

    Wiggle room on lore has always been a part of comics, and changes are part and parcel of adapting one form of media to another. Nothing ever makes it from one form of media to another 100% intact.