Hope (Blue Lantern Powerset?)

What's the matter with the game lore? If the owners of said lore allowed the devs to do things this way, then nobody else is really right to say they are wrong. That's absurdly preposterous.

Also, what's wrong on sexism in the story? It's a goddamng fiction, for the love of my behind.

1 - Atlanteans constantly belittle 'people from the surface' -> Racism.
2 - Circe believes all men to be inferior -> Sexism.
3 - Nobody is allowed in Themyscira without invitation, otherwise they will be killed -> Xenophobia.

Remember the golden rule: It's FICTION, and the owners of the lore are always right. Arguing with them is illogical and unwise. You are not right on that, they are.

I'd like to chime in on this, if I may! My GL lore isn't extremely in depth, so there may be minor errors.

Out of all the Spectrum lights, Green/Yellow/Violet seem the most alike, at least to me. Aside from, obviously, crystalization, which as I recall hasn't been used as much in the comics recently, the exception being converting new corps members. Also, the Star Sapphire constructs have been described as having a more 'feathery' appearance, over the solid Green/Yellow ones.

Hope and Rage have much greater gimmicks, such as Hope being unable to work without a Will lantern by it, whereas Rage spits blood and they are blind by rage unless they bathe in the blood ocean on Ysmault (is that correct?), so technically, isn't the lore being bent already by having Red Lanterns who can actually form coherent thoughts and do more with their ring than just spit blood? (not sure what the Red Lantern powerset in the game includes, should really play it some time...)

White and Black, well. That's a no no.

But Star Sapphires have been both good and evil (though evil is plainly due to the dominating nature of the gem/emotion), and they are controlled by love. Again, not sure how far this goes, but I'll bet everything that it isn't only romantic love, but love in general. Love for the Earth, for life, for the universe.

So of course, I campaign for a violet power ring to be the one ring that rules them all, so to speak. Regardless of faction. The Star Sapphires recruit more people in order to fight this continuous Brainiac invasion, but they search for the hearts of those that are filled with love for humanity. As Wonder Woman says in one of her cinematic appearances, Truth and Love shall prevail over evil. Now, since these are simple rings which aren't the real deal (that's what the Light Power rings are, right?) then it's obvious that some could use their love for the world and it's surroundings to battle for good, while others may use their love for causing pain and destruction to use them for evil.

Powerset wise, I don't think that there is that much issue making it, with only maybe adding something like a 'Love Chain' or 'Spear' (Think I saw them do that once or twice) that connects a controller to someone of their choice, maybe the highest dps, or the healer in the group, to boost the power given to them just a little bit compared to the others or simply give them a permanent PoT as long as the chain holds. It could be an interesting mechanic, and actually give something to do to controllers aside from spamming pot/power/debuffs in a continuous rotation.

'Eh, pipe dreams. My fantasy of BP wearing a violet ring may never come true. Heck, I'd be satisfied with just a recolour.

Then let DC know that. Yelling at the devs about it won't do you much good.

As for the reasons for your assertions, they're still pretty flimsy reasons for assuming and/or throwing around accusations of sexism and heterosexism. You'd best have something far more substantial in terms of proof if you want to make those particular accusations stick, especially considering how serious those particular accusations can be.

I just can't buy into the "lore violations are a big deal" as your reasoning because you are almost laser-focused on one particular aspect of the lore that, if changed to suit your viewpoint, would allow you to make the characters you just openly stated that you want to make. As someone prone to nitpicking myself, it just seems that someone THAT concerned with lore would be nitpicking every single little thing that didn't match up exactly with how it was done in the comics. Focusing so much on one little aspect that would benefit you personally if changed makes your stated desire to see lore respected/done right seem pretty hollow and borderline disingenuous.

The funny thing about all this back and forth? Had you just stated your desire to make a male Star Sapphire as the reason you wanted the change, I'd probably have left it all alone. Instead you decided to make this some kind of crusade, complete with throwing around accusations and hiding behind reasons that just don't stand up all that well under scrutiny.

Sign me up! I LOVE healing!!!

Actually the game makers are supposed to adhere to the game lore also the situations of sexism and racism are all shown as bad in game however it is sexist to say that the Star Sapphire power is female only when males can love as well as females and men have wielded Violet Light in the comics. Also the Themyscirans don't just kill people willy nilly for landing on the island. Steve Trevor landed on the island and while he was forced to leave he wasn't killed. Wonder Woman even accompanied him back to Man's World.

I have let DC know I actually sent them an email voicing my concerns sometime ago. However DC has actually had male Star Sapphires in the comics it is the devs that are violating lore by making them female only.

Next I imagine that this is true. I see no other reasons for making the Star Sapphire gear female only when men have wielded Violet Light in game.

Also I have focused on other lore violations as well. Like for instance how they made the Indigo and Black Lantern gear faction neutral when Indigos are heroic and Black Lanterns are villainous. I also mentioned that I think that it was silly to make the Amazon and Wonder Woman gear or both genders although I could have let this slide if they made the Star Sapphire gear female only. One thing that did piss me off was how they made Cheetah aka Barbara Ann Minerva American in game when in the comics she is British.

Also making a Male Star Sapphire is one of my main reasons as well as the lore violations which I think should be corrected. I have long desired to make a Star Sapphire male and I think the devs should correct this error in making them female only.

You realise Star Sapphire isn't even a power set in the game, right? Because you keep saying "Star Sapphire power" when in reality you're talking about a style set. You're clearly in denial. Just accept the fact that it has happened. Maybe they will make a SS set for males in the future, maybe they won't, but you spouting the same nonsense over and over again isn't going to make the blindest bit of difference to the situation, especially when you're insulting the devs in every single post by calling them sexist when they're not.

Stop it. STOP. The Indigo Tribe IS neutral. They are neither heroes or villains, they are loners who keep to themselves. They occasionally help out the good guys every now and then, but so do a lot of villains. Does that make those villains heroes? No, it doesn't. The Black Lantern style is for both factions because the Black Lantern Corps consist of both heroes and villains. End. Of. Story.

You can never accept when you are wrong and it is beyond ridiculous. You choose to completely ignore the facts that stare you straight in the face. You are the only person arguing these things. When tons of people are telling you otherwise do you not even believe there is a remote possibility that you're wrong? Because you are.

You are arguing real life logic with a FICTION. It's an universe where being thrown in a pool of acid will just get you disfigured, where a regular cuple can easily be killed with one bullet each, but a pre-teenager can be brutally beaten with a crowbar then be in the center of an explosion and he will have just minor lacerations. Don't even get me started on how the entire population of the universe can come to Earth without even worrying about the planet's environment acting with their phisiology and how ALL of them know english.

If in this universe men can't be as capable of loving as women, who are we to argue? Nobody. Don`t forget that if DC says that DCUO's lore is not wrong, we are nobody to say otherwise.

I stated that the Star Sapphire gear as well as any future power should be for males and females as I have mentioned before the Corps allows both men and women. Also I will continue speaking on the matter until the devs correct their mistakes. Also unless the devs can defend why they did this the reasons for making their gear female only to me stem from sexist reasons based on their perceptions that the gear looks to feminine and again they deliberately violated lore to make it female only even though males have wielded Violet Light in the comics.

The Indigo Tribe is not neutral. When the ring gets put on them they become heroic desiring to do good and help people. That is heroic. Also it doesn't matter if the Black Lanterns have heroes and villains on them. Once the Black Ring gets on a person it turns them into an evil zombie whose only goal is to bring universal death to all things. They cease to be heroes and turn villainous once they get the Black Ring on them so the Black Lantern style should be villain exclusive.

It is sexist to say that men can not love as well as women and again the comics show that men have wielded Violet Light before. Also DC has not stated that DCUO's lore is not wrong. They have let many of their mediums violate lore however in a game where accuracy to the comics is important the devs should be require to keep to lore and the lore shows that men can be Star Sapphires.

They don't "desire to do good and help people" at all. The ring brainwashes them to feel compassion, that's it. What they do with the compassion is up to them. Are you saying villains can't feel compassion? That's factionist! You have violated the lore of humanity with that factionist statement.

A black ring doesn't turn them into an evil zombie. It enthralls them. They are at the bidding of their master. They do what they are commanded and they have no say over the matter. They are puppets on strings.

Um, show me one time of when a dev ever said men can not love as well as women? You're saying the fact that male characters can't wear a damn costume means the devs think men are incapable of the same kind of love as women? So what does the fact female characters can't wear the manhunter gear say? That women can't kill as well men? That women can't be as emotionless as men? Get a grip. You are completely clutching at straws here lady.

They have a desire to help people from their Compassion and as such are not willing to do the more villainous actions that they have felt before. Villains can feel Compassion but once the Indigo Ring gets on them it floods them with Compassion making them into heroes for with this extreme surge of Compassion they desire to help people and not harm them. Next yes they are puppets of Black Hand and Nekron but the ring still alters and brainwashes them to be evil and desire to bring death to all things. If you are brainwashed to be evil then you are still evil.

They have implied that men can not love as well as women by making the costume female exclusive. Personally I wish they had made the Manhunter gear as well for females to wear as well. I don't see why they wouldn't.

If DC didn't say DCUO's lore is wrong, then DCUO's lore is not wrong. End of problem.

And I will say it once again: IT'S FICTION. You can call it as sexist as you want, that will mean nothing. If it bothers you so much, don't read it. I don't care if men can or can't be Star Sapphires. I'm not arguing that.

First of all DC has allowed many mediums to violate lore however in this game one of the aims was for accuracy to the comics it is not only sexist but it violates comic lore as males have wielded Violet Light before.

It doesn`t violate the lore as men used violet light in their official media.

Seriously, stop trying to know more about DC's lore than DC itself. It`s ridiculous.

DC, the actual judges of whether or not something violates lore, approved the devs' decision about the Star Sapphire gear. You can disagree with it all you like and feel that the devs have "violated" lore, but the ones who actually make that call had no problem with it.

In terms of what does and doesn't contradict lore, DC has the final say, not you, and they have spoken. When they approved all the things you listed that you find objectionable in regards to lore, they made their statement.

Again DC never stated that they did not violate lore and has been tolerant on certain mediums of their story's lore getting violated more then others. The point is that in this game where accuracy to the comics is a priority they shouldn't be so free to violate lore and it is sexist and completely violates lore to make the Star Sapphire gear female only.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Good job avoiding the question.

I haven't avoided the question and I have stated before that I think that the Manhunter gear should be for both sexes as well.